Re: [TML] Pilot position Evyn Gutierrez (28 Jun 2020 01:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (28 Jun 2020 02:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jun 2020 10:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jun 2020 10:15 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (28 Jun 2020 18:01 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (29 Jun 2020 19:38 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (29 Jun 2020 21:05 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (30 Jun 2020 03:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Jun 2020 05:35 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (30 Jun 2020 18:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (30 Jun 2020 19:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Jun 2020 20:41 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (30 Jun 2020 21:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (01 Jul 2020 01:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (02 Jul 2020 22:01 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (02 Jul 2020 22:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Jul 2020 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (04 Jul 2020 21:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jul 2020 21:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (05 Jul 2020 02:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (05 Jul 2020 05:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (05 Jul 2020 05:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (07 Jul 2020 04:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (07 Jul 2020 23:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Jeffrey Schwartz (08 Jul 2020 00:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (08 Jul 2020 00:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Jeffrey Schwartz (08 Jul 2020 00:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (13 Jul 2020 06:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (13 Jul 2020 06:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (21 Jul 2020 15:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (13 Jul 2020 13:33 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (21 Jul 2020 15:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (22 Jul 2020 02:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (28 Jul 2020 00:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (28 Jul 2020 02:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (06 Aug 2020 20:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (06 Aug 2020 20:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (06 Aug 2020 22:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Timothy Collinson (06 Aug 2020 22:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Jeff Zeitlin (13 Jul 2020 17:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (12 Jul 2020 13:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (12 Jul 2020 18:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (21 Jul 2020 08:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (21 Jul 2020 10:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Hubert Figuiere (22 Jul 2020 14:28 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (22 Jul 2020 17:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jul 2020 18:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (28 Jul 2020 00:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (28 Jul 2020 02:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jul 2020 03:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (31 Jul 2020 04:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (27 Jul 2020 02:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Jul 2020 17:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Jeff Zeitlin (21 Jul 2020 10:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (27 Jul 2020 02:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Jeff Zeitlin (27 Jul 2020 10:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Jul 2020 17:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (30 Jul 2020 03:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Jul 2020 15:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (02 Aug 2020 14:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (29 Jul 2020 23:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Jul 2020 23:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (24 Jul 2020 00:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jul 2020 01:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Kelly St. Clair (24 Jul 2020 03:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jul 2020 08:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (24 Jul 2020 13:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Jul 2020 13:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (24 Jul 2020 20:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (25 Jul 2020 14:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (24 Jul 2020 13:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Timothy Collinson (24 Jul 2020 07:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Alex Goodwin (03 Jul 2020 08:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Timothy Collinson (03 Jul 2020 09:25 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (04 Jul 2020 02:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jul 2020 06:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (04 Jul 2020 09:37 UTC)
RE: [TML] Pilot position Frank Filz (04 Jul 2020 15:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (04 Jul 2020 18:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Jul 2020 22:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Phil Pugliese (04 Jul 2020 20:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Rupert Boleyn (02 Jul 2020 23:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX (29 Jun 2020 18:58 UTC)

RE: [TML] Pilot position Thomas RUX 30 Jun 2020 03:15 UTC

Hi Frank,

> On 06/29/2020 2:05 PM Frank Filz <xxxxxx@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Hello Frank,
> >
> > > On 06/28/2020 11:01 AM Frank Filz <xxxxxx@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's my answer to the Pilot/Ship's Boat dilemma:
> > >
> > > Pilot and Ship’s Boat
> > >
> > > Ship’s Boat is a subset of Pilot that only applies while piloting a ship in M-Drive.
> > Pilot is required to pilot a ship through a jump and also applies when piloting a
> > ship in M-Drive. If a character earns ranks in both skills, the levels should be
> > added together and listed as Pilot skill.
> > >
> > > So Ship's Boat skill lets you pilot any space craft in system and for landing and
> > takeoff, but Pilot skill is necessary to pilot a ship into and through jump.
> > >
> > > Frank
> >
> > CT LBB 1 1977/1981 p. 21 Pilot Skill minus 1 allows a character to operate small
> > interplanetary craft (under 100 tons). Under the Referee example a ship's boat
> > pilot is not able to pilot hulls 100 tons and over.
>
> That's actually added in 1981... So since I run 1977, I have to house rule...
>
Thank you for the clarification that you are using Basic Traveller 1977 edition and I did indicate that the information was added in 1981. My Basic Travel books from 1981 have the copyright date of 1977/1981.
>
> One I don't like though is that if you earned Pilot-2 and then rolled Ships Boat, you have a wasted skill roll unless you roll Ships Boat again. And I struggle with how there is something sort of in common but not really. So I made my house rule.
>

There is a difference between a pilot's license for a Cessna 172 and an Airbus A380 even though they both are basically the same skill. From a number of programs I've watched over the years a majority of pilots have started with pilot licenses for aircraft like the Cessna 172 and worked there way up.

The 1981 rule I think fixes the issue. In CT LBB 5 HG 1979 and 1980 Ship's Boat has been moved to a subset of Vehicle Skill only for planetary navies.

Tom Rux