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On Sun, 8/31/14, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Subsec Dukes at the Sector capital [was Re: [TML] expected ship traffic]
 To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
 Date: Sunday, August 31, 2014, 4:32 PM

 On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at
 4:19 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 wrote:
 --------------------------------------------On Sat,
 8/30/14, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: Subsec Dukes at the Sector capital [was Re:
 [TML] expected ship traffic]

  To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com

  Date: Saturday, August 30, 2014, 8:39 PM

   

  Medieval France represents a land where the major

  vassal families largely succeeded in The Unification

  Dance; medieval Germany represents a land where they
 failed

  miserably.   

   

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 True, but, ironically, France was also where the monarch
 became virtually absolute while the
 noble's(vassal's) power declined greatly.

 Yep. But the Imperium doesn't
 have a third major power block (e.g. the Catholic Church)
 which the monarch can use as a counterweight to the nobles
 and then betray.
  

 Of course the germans never became truly unified till Hitler
 came along.

 I'd say Bismark did a pretty
 good job at unification. All the independent city-states and
 principalities left over from the Middle Ages pretty much
 went away on his watch. Hitler did gather all the
 German-speaking countries into a single state, but then
 there came those seventy-some years of (effectively) Soviet
 rule . . .

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Yeah, but don't forget about the Austrian Empire, which was a major power thru WWI & about 25% of it's pop was german.

I suppose that now, what w/ the EU & all, it could be said that, finally, all the germans are united.

Loosely, though.

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 One can easily imagine
 stretches of the Imperium (particularly along the various
 borders) with an equally tangled history.
 Richard Aiken

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Yeah esp w/ all the vargrs, incl the ArchDuke, in Antares.

SJGames also had some aslans, along w/ an aslan subsector duke in the spinward marches in their variant 3I.

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