Re: [TML] Some more thoughts on TU system development vs countries on Earth Phil Pugliese 02 Sep 2014 13:56 UTC
That's an interesting take on the definition of 'industrialization'. One I've never encountered before. Perhaps this might've contributed to Japan's lack lustre performance (I know there's other factors) over the last 15 or so years? -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 9/1/14, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] Some more thoughts on TU system development vs countries on Earth To: "tml@simplelists.com" <tml@simplelists.com> Date: Monday, September 1, 2014, 6:19 PM No, 1996. That was the year the US Congress passed the anti-industrial espionage Bill that prevented the Japanese companies from siphoning off the results of federally-funded research. Until than many (most) Japanese corporate research offices in the US were conveniently located close to major university and college campuses. In China industrialisation had a brief start, but was killed by the 'if it works, we don't need anything new' culture. In Europe this started in mid-17th century after the separation of Church and state, so the culture couldn't kill it (literally, see Inquisition), although many innovators were still persecuted. When Japan, which had 'industrialised' in the 1860s by copying anything and everything produced in Europe, was in 1996 forced to invest in own research facilities and try to change the way culture influenced basic education, that was its true start of industrialisation. Greg On 28 August 2014 04:53, Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com> wrote: > Japan didn't industrialize until 1996, so not sure about 'speed of change' > > Do you perhaps mean 1896 instead? This was 40 years after the Treaty of Kanagawa, a time period where Japan went from an agrarian TL2 backwater to a TL4, nearly TL5 world power capable of defeating one of the world’s largest navies. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to listmom@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://archives.simplelists.com ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to listmom@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=EwREIRgLK8vaUEhNlnoNdSGKwnjoID8a