Re: Naval Scout/Couriers Re: [TML] Why do those big ships carry so many fighters? Jeffrey Schwartz 24 Oct 2014 12:59 UTC
That is pretty darn spiffy. I like the split computers, clever idea. Is it really needed under HG rules, though? Not to be morbid, but part of me kinda wonders if the computer has taken 4 hits, how much jump drive would be left ? (grin) That'd save a fifth or so of the ship's cost. Alternately, would goosing the Mod/4 to a Mod/5 be worth it? That would give a DefDM during combat as well, which might keep it from being damaged in the first place. I think dropping to 2 staterooms should work, since crew drops. Maybe some kind of comment that the second stateroom is configurable as bunks to load 4 Marine Commandos? That'd let the IISS double up in one room, and handle the Marine requirement. Air/Raft went away... but 1dt craft bay. Hmm... Grav Belts for all the crew? Make that room a special "EVA Airlock" with a rack for Grav Belts? Or custom design a vehicle that fits? On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Ian Whitchurch <ian.whitchurch@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is the FS proposal for the SC-15 project - a jump 4 scout/courier, for > the Navy's needs of the next millenium. > > Unlike certain of our competitors, we decided that maintaining the same 100 > dton wedge profile of the Type S was a high priority, as this means that the > vast amount of IISS infrastructure can be re-used. > > The ship is capable of the jump-4 of the majority of the Imperial Navy > squadrons, and has a backup computer that allows it to maintain jump-3 even > under battle damage. Two staterooms, an air/raft bay and 2dtons of cargo > space have been maintained, along with the dual turret of the old type S. > > Fuel scoops and purification have, of course, been maintained. > > We commend the new workhorse of the Third Imperium to you. > > **** > > Ship: SC-15 > Class: SC-15 > Type: Scout > Architect: Ditzie Spofulam > Tech Level: 15 > > USP > SC-1142441-000000-00000-0 MCr 97.130 100 Tons > Bat Bear Crew: 2 > Bat TL: 15 > > Cargo: 3 Crew Sections: 1 of 2 Fuel: 44 EP: 4 Agility: 2 > Craft: 1 x 1T None > Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification > Backups: 1 x Model/2bis Computer > > Architects Fee: MCr 0.971 Cost in Quantity: MCr 77.704 > > > Detailed Description > (High Guard Design) > > HULL > 100.000 tons standard, 1,400.000 cubic meters, Needle/Wedge Configuration > > CREW > Pilot, Gunner > > ENGINEERING > Jump-4, 2G Manuever, Power plant-4, 4.000 EP, Agility 2 > > AVIONICS > Bridge, Model/4 Computer > 1 Model/2bis Backup Computer > > HARDPOINTS > 1 Hardpoint > > ARMAMENT > 1 Dual Mixed Turret with: > > DEFENCES > None > > CRAFT > 1 1.000 ton None (Crew of 0, Cost of MCr 0.000) > > FUEL > 44 Tons Fuel (4 parsecs jump and 28 days endurance) > On Board Fuel Scoops, On Board Fuel Purification Plant > > MISCELLANEOUS > 2 Staterooms, 3 Tons Cargo > > USER DEFINED COMPONENTS > None > > COST > MCr 98.101 Singly (incl. Architects fees of MCr 0.971), MCr 77.704 in > Quantity > > CONSTRUCTION TIME > 38 Weeks Singly, 30 Weeks in Quantity > > COMMENTS > > > > SC-15 Class Scout > > HULL > Hull: 0.000 Td; MCr 12.000 > Armour Factor-0: 0.000 Td; MCr 0.000 > > ENGINEERING > M-Drive Factor-2: 5.000 Td; MCr 3.500 > J-Drive Factor-4: 5.000 Td; MCr 20.000 > P-Plant Factor-4: 4.000 Td; MCr 12.000; +4.000 EP > > FUEL > P-Fuel: 4.000 Td; MCr 0,000 > J-Fuel: 40.000 Td; MCr 0.000 > Scoops: 0.000 Td; MCr 0.100 > Purification: 3.000 Td; MCr 0.030 > L-Hyd Drop Tanks: 0.000 Td; MCr 0.000 > > AVIONICS > Bridge: 20.000 Td; MCr 0.500 > Computer Model/4: 4.000 Td; MCr 30.000; -2 EP > 1 x Backup Computer Model/2bis: 2.000 Td; MCr 18.000 > > WEAPONRY > 1 x Mixed Turrets: 1.000 Td; MCr 0.000 > > SCREENS > > CRAFT > 1 x None: 1.000Td; MCr 0.000; Cost of craft: MCr 0.000 > > ACCOMODATIONS > 2.0 x Staterooms: 8.000 Td; MCr 1.000 > Cargo: 3.000 Td; MCr 0.000 > > USER DEFINED > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) > <nobody@simplelists.com> wrote: >> >> This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow forwarding of >> emails via email lists. 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The original >> message follows: >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Thu, 10/23/14, Grimmund <grimmund@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: Re: Naval Scout/Couriers Re: [TML] Why do those big ships carry >> so many fighters? >> To: tml@simplelists.com >> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2014, 11:43 AM >> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at >> 12:06 PM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) >> <nobody@simplelists.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Back of the >> envelope, under high guard, at tl15, with >> > a 100dton hull, >> > >> you can go J4, M4, and have room for 2 staterooms, and >> > a turret, and >> > >> that's about it. >> > >> > J4, 2G, 2 staterooms, and a >> turret, leaves you maybe 6 >> > dtons. >> > >> > Dan >> > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > The J4 2G design >> looks like it's pretty close to the legacy scout ship as >> the old one did have some cargo space. >> >> The J4/2G version has 2 staterooms (not 4, on >> the original), and 6 >> dtons remaining, which >> could be another stateroom, and air/raft bay, >> or whatever else. >> >> >> > If the turret was removed >> from the J4 4G design, how much cargo space would that >> yield? >> > p.s. I don't recall that the >> legacy design could mount a turret? >> >> The turret mechanism is a dton. There is no >> way I'd send a 100 dton >> ship out without >> a turret. >> >> The original Book >> 2 scout had one empty double turret installed, >> stock, along with 4 staterooms, an air/raft >> bay, and 3 dtons of cargo >> space left on >> the design. >> >> I'm >> puttering in High Guard Shipyard. >> >> Dan >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Perhaps the diffs 'tween the CT LBB2 & CT LBB5 (HG) systems are coming >> into play? >> >> Otherwise, it would seem that, using CT HG, one would have to resort to J3 >> 2G in order to match the original scout ship. >> >> >> ============================================================================================ >> >> ----- >> The Traveller Mailing List >> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >> Report problems to listmom@travellercentral.com >> To unsubscribe from this list please goto >> http://archives.simplelists.com > > > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to listmom@travellercentral.com > To unsubscribe from this list please goto > http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=vSy3NFQJMSbZKrzPfC3XucFBsUCMtKrI