automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (22 Jun 2016 17:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Bruce Johnson (22 Jun 2016 18:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (22 Jun 2016 23:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (22 Jun 2016 23:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Kenneth Barns (22 Jun 2016 23:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (22 Jun 2016 23:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Kenneth Barns (23 Jun 2016 02:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2016 04:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Tim (23 Jun 2016 05:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Bruce Johnson (23 Jun 2016 18:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (23 Jun 2016 23:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Tim (24 Jun 2016 08:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Andrew Long (24 Jun 2016 15:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (25 Jun 2016 00:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Tim (25 Jun 2016 08:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2016 08:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Tim (25 Jun 2016 09:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (25 Jun 2016 20:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Tim (24 Jun 2016 07:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Bruce Johnson (26 Jun 2016 23:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (10 Jul 2016 00:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Richard Aiken (10 Jul 2016 05:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Abu Dhabi (10 Jul 2016 05:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications shadow@xxxxxx (10 Jul 2016 09:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications shadow@xxxxxx (10 Jul 2016 09:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Abu Dhabi (10 Jul 2016 11:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Richard Aiken (10 Jul 2016 11:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Kelly St. Clair (11 Jul 2016 00:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Bruce Johnson (11 Jul 2016 14:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Jim Vassilakos (11 Jul 2016 20:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Abu Dhabi (11 Jul 2016 21:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Richard Aiken (11 Jul 2016 22:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications B Kruger (12 Jul 2016 06:58 UTC)

Re: [TML] automation and its ramifications Andrew Long 24 Jun 2016 15:21 UTC

> On 24 Jun 2016, at 09:18, Tim <xxxxxx@little-possums.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 04:01:00PM -0700, Jim Vassilakos wrote:
>> Tim wrote:
>>  "Eliminating this requirement would probably require strong AI,
>>  which is a lot more than just automation and opens a whole other
>>  can of worms.”
>> <snip/>
>
> Development of strong AI is really a "singularity" event: it would
> affect the whole of society is so many fundamental ways that it is
> pretty much impossible to extrapolate beyond.  That is to say,
> regarding questions like "class division" and "freedom of the press",
> my non-answer would be that I think it's likely to alter society so
> greatly that the bases of the questions no longer exist.
>
> <more snips/>
>
>
> I think that development of strong AI could easily have a greater,
> faster, and more unpredictable effect than agriculture, writing,
> money, and industrialization combined.
>
>
> This is probably a good reason for maintaining the "no strong AI"
> aspect of the Traveller setting.  Whatever civilization develops
> afterward should probably be more alien to us than Hivers are, and
> that makes it very difficult to write about or play in.
>
> Playing in the beginnings of such a revolution, though -- that might
> be interesting.

In the Chinese meaning of the word, and probably only for a short time…

Regards, Andy

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