Re: Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass? Phil Pugliese 01 May 2017 22:00 UTC
I'll take your word about the pic. However, remember that this was taken during WWI, when the exigencies of *massively* increasing the size of the US Army in a short period of time meant that not every unit could be up-to-date. Consider the famous .45 automatic. It was the standard sidearm but there were not near enough of them avail to equip everyone. What I would really like to find is a pic of the old sabre & one of the new one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5/1/17, Fred Kiesche <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass? To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Monday, May 1, 2017, 2:23 PM Well, it appears that my attempt at showing history with a picture dud not work, so here's my text: "My mother has my (paternal) grandfather's US Cav sword, which we can see him holding (from the front) in a 1918 picture of his unit. It is curved, not straight. I'll try embedding the image below (not sure if the list will accept that?) (He is fourth from the left)." On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 15:36 Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5/1/17, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass? To: "xxxxxx@simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> Date: Monday, May 1, 2017, 9:50 AM [Lot's of good stuff snipped] Swords designed to be used from horseback, for example, tend to all look alike: curved blades designed for slashing in an arc without the tip hanging up to dislodge the rider, long enough to reach a foot soldier alongside a horse, short enough to be easy to wield from the saddle one handed. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I recall reading somewhere that Patton, while still a jr officer & after he competed in the Olympics, managed to get himself assigned to the project to design a new cavalry sword for the US Army. I also recall it was before WWI. Anyway, I remember the new sword was described as "a straight sword intended for chopping instead of slashing"<sic> which surprised me as I was accustomed to the sort of saber seen on most old westerns. Now that I'm thinking about it, I also recall reading an article about the army that Gustavus Adolphus brought into the Thirty-Years War. As I remember his cavalry was distinguished by using a straight 'chopping' sword. ------------------------- [More snipping] -------------------------- Famously the cutlass was designed to be used by inexperienced sailors in close quarters; in truth, hatchets and short axes were used almost as frequently, as those were very common tools aboard a wooden ship (thus multiple use devices), and are as easy to wield (probably easier, since they get used a lot, so there’s muscle memory.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Heck even the good ol' belaying pin would come in handy during a boarding melee" As my (retired vet) Dad used to say; "hit'em on top of his head so hard he'll have three tongues in his shoes!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There isn’t ‘one true sword design’. Frankly the imperial 'cutlass’ probably looks as much like this <http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?p=65248&cat=2,45794> as anything else. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hey! You've just discovered the KTLSS (commonly referred to as a 'cutlass'). The standard boarding weapon of the Imperial Marines. ===================================================================== ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please go to http://archives.simplelists.com-- F.P. Kiesche III Husband, Father, Good Cook. Reader. Keeper of abandoned dogs. Catholic Liberal Conservative Militarist. Does not fit into a neat box or category. "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at Bernal Alpha. On Twitter as @FredKiesche ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please go to http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=EwREIRgLK8vaUEhNlnoNdSGKwnjoID8a