Re: article theft and authorship certification (Stevan Harnad) Marcia Tuttle 10 Aug 2000 16:08 UTC
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 15:08:27 +0100 From: Stevan Harnad <harnad@COGLIT.ECS.SOTON.AC.UK> Subject: Re: article theft and authorship certification On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Franck Ramus wrote: > many authors are still reluctant to put their papers on online > archives, and the most common reason they put forward is the fear that > their work be stolen and published by someone else. I know that Stevan > has done a lot in this forum and elsewhere to dismiss these fears, yet > more seems to be needed to convince everybody. > Could archives be used as a certification that i have uploaded an > article at a certain date? obviously, cogprints does provide such > information. if someone were to steal my work and publish it in his own > name, I could always appeal to the editor of the journal and "prove" > that the same content was archived on cogprints before the plagia was > submitted. would that work? would archive owners be willing to > cooperate on such matters? or does the date (or identity) appearing on > cogprints have no formal/legal value whatsoever? There are indeed powerful new ways of authenticating texts and dates in a digital archive. I hope my colleague, Adrian Pickering, will reply, describing his system, which CogPrints and Eprints may be implementing. But let me point out that at this time, priority and plagiarism are not the real problems, and I doubt they are what is delaying the inevitable era of self-archiving. (In context: getting people to read and cite our work is already such a problem that it is hard to imagine that there is much of a market for stealing it!) > FREEING SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE: > http://www.ehess.fr/centres/lscp/persons/ramus/FREE.html I've seen Franck's site and like it, but would like to make one strategic suggestion: The title, which will cause more harm than good, should be changed. Yes, at some level, (some) publisher "greed" plays (some) role in holding the literature to access-tolls, but that is neither the whole story nor will it be productive to put a spotlight on it. The current status quo with refereed journals is caused more by Gutenberg (a good guy) than anything else. Gutenberg gave rise to the S/L/P toll-barrier edifice, because of print's economics and technology. And that's still the right edifice, and necessary, for non-give-away work (such as books); but it is no longer right (nor necessary, nor even justifiable) for give-away work in the PostGutenberg (online) era. The real villain is hence everyone's (not just publishers' but authors', libraries', institutions', referees', editors') failure to understand the changes that have been made possible (and necessary) by the PostGutenberg era. If you point the finger at publishers (especially the most expensive ones, like Elsevier), you imply that they are the villains, and that any good guy would lower prices, or drop prices altogether. But they are not villains, and no one would lower or drop prices unless they HAD to. That is why author self-archiving is crucial: Necessity is the Mother of Invention. Once the literature has been freed de facto by its authors, the publishers will restructure. They will not restructure under vilification. And people will not self-archive because publishers are vilified: They will self-archive once they realize it is in their own interests, that it is sufficient in itself to free the journal literature, and that it is perfectly legal. If I were you, Franck, I would stress that, and not publisher "greed." (Scholarly Publishers, after all, are our allies: They could have been publishing broad-spectrum pot-boilers instead of learned research!) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stevan Harnad harnad@cogsci.soton.ac.uk Professor of Cognitive Science harnad@princeton.edu Department of Electronics and phone: +44 23-80 592-582 Computer Science fax: +44 23-80 592-865 University of Southampton http://www.cogsci.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/ Highfield, Southampton http://www.princeton.edu/~harnad/ SO17 1BJ UNITED KINGDOM NOTE: A complete archive of this ongoing discussion of providing free access to the refereed journal literature is available at the American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00): http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/september98-forum.html You may join the list at the site above. Discussion can be posted to: september98-forum@amsci-forum.amsci.org