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Haworth Press Journals (5 messages) Marcia Tuttle 03 Oct 2000 16:49 UTC

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>>From janice.white@FCT-CF.GC.CA Tue Oct  3 12:44:43 2000
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:31:18 -0400
From: Janice White <janice.white@FCT-CF.GC.CA>
Subject: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse) -Reply

Hi Carol

Thanks for the head's up on that pricing.  I went to check the few
journals we do subscribe to and was relieved to see that the Institutional
price and the Library price on them were identical.

I wonder why the journals you saw and some others I checked out, had such
a huge descrepancy between the 2 types of subscriptions.  It begs a
question to the company directly, to account for such a price fluctuation.
I thought libraries should have a better rate than an institution, but it
seems that is a thing of the past.

Janice White
Acquisitions Assistant
Federal Court of Canada Library

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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:06:12 -0700
From: Carol Morse <MorsCa@WWC.EDU>
Subject: Haworth Press journals

I just noticed in browsing the Haworth catalog online that there are 3
prices for their subscriptions!: individual, institutional and libraries.
For example Clinical Supervisor is listed at $60, 200, and 400
respectively; Social Thought at $40, 75, and 125, and Journal of
Gerontological Social Work at $50, 65, and 325!  I was not aware of this
because I take my price information from Ebsconet, which lists the library
price, since they deal with libraries.

I think this is horrendous, it's price-gouging.  Since when were libraries
not institutions?  Does anyone know of other presses that do this?  Is
there anything to be done?  We would have a hard time boycotting this
publisher since we need their titles for our Social Work program.  Any
thoughts? Carol

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Carol Morse                                                  Tel.  509) 527-2684
Serials Librarian                                             Fax 509) 527-2001
Walla Walla College Library                     Email  morsca@wwc.edu
104 S.W. Adams St.
College Place, WA  99324-1195

Give us strength for the journey and wisdom to know the way.
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>>From HAIMOVSKY@FORDHAM.EDU Tue Oct  3 12:44:43 2000
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:51:02 -0400
From: Kira Haimovsky <HAIMOVSKY@FORDHAM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse)

I have my eye on the Haworth Press for many outrageous things, including
high prices and the way they add additional volumes in the middle of the
year and ask for additional huge payment. Their journals have very
irregular frequencies and they change titles without any regard to logic.
I wish we could get all serials people together and could do something to
change their behavior.

Kira Haimovsky
Head of Serials Dept
Fordham University Libraries

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>>From ssturgeo@SALEMSTATE.EDU Tue Oct  3 12:44:43 2000
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:09:13 -0400
From: Susan E. Sturgeon <ssturgeo@SALEMSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse)

Everything about this publisher is outrageous!  Their other favorite
trick, as you know, is to combine numbers so that you actually get many
fewer issues than advertised.  But they do get into niches that are
essential to academia, even though I think their content is a little
thin as well.  I don't know what is to be done, but I think that they
have treated us so badly for years that it may be time to
reciprocate.  You can't go to jail for storing individual subscriptions
in the library, can you?

SUSAN STURGEON
SERIALS DEPARTMENT
SALEM STATE COLLEGE LIBRARY
352 LAFAYETTE ST.
SALEM MA 01970
NEW E-mail address:susan.sturgeon@salem.mass.edu

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>>From lstevens@RMWC.EDU Tue Oct  3 12:44:43 2000
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:02:16 -0400
From: Lynne Stevens <lstevens@RMWC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse)

With regard to subscription price differentiation, Carol Morse asked the
question, "Since when were libraries not institutions?"  It occurs to me
that perhaps it is assumed that an institutional copy would be circulated
within a department, while a library copy would have a much larger
circulation.  My guess entirely; it would be useful to get Haworth's
definitions.

Lynne N. Stevens
Serials Coordinator
Lipscomb Library
Randolph-Macon Woman's College
2500 Rivermont Avenue
Lynchburg, VA  24503
804 947-8133
lstevens@rmwc.edu

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>>From rickand@UNR.EDU Tue Oct  3 12:44:43 2000
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:03:23 -0700
From: Rick Anderson <rickand@UNR.EDU>
Subject: Re: Haworth Press journals (Carol Morse)

> I think this is horrendous, it's price-gouging.  Since when were libraries
> not institutions?

Without defending the practice, I think I can see the difference in
Haworth's mind.  To them, an "institution" is probably an organization that
will circulate its copy within the prescribed ambit of its employees.  A
library, on the other hand, has an outreach mission, and will actively
encourage a large population to use its copy.  If Haworth is setting its
prices based on the potential number of readers for each copy, then it makes
sense to distinguish between libraries and other institutions.  (Hold your
flames: I'm _not_ saying that it's smart or wise to set prices this way.)

Rick

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Rick Anderson
Electronic Resources/Serials Coordinator
The University Libraries
University of Nevada, Reno
1664 No. Virginia St.
Reno, NV  89557
PH  (775) 784-6500 x273
FX  (775) 784-1328
rickand@unr.edu