Re: Organic Gardening: title change? again? -- Deborah Griffis Stephen Clark 25 Jun 2003 17:55 UTC

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Organic Gardening: title change? again?
From: "Griffis, Deborah" <>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:45:40 -0400

I understand the new rules, and feel that they will rightly cut down on
a lot of unnecessary new records.  Unfortunately, for any library that
shelves their periodicals alphabetically by title, the decision to keep
Organic Gardening as OG will cause countless problems for shelvers and
patrons alike.  On the editorial page of the May/June 2003 issue, editor
Scott Meyer states that the title was changed back to Organic Gardening
at the request of readers.  Shouldn't that count for something?  They
obviously don't want to be known as OG any more!

Deborah L. Griffis
Periodicals Librarian
Richland County Public Library
2001 Library of the Year
1431 Assembly St., Box 54, Columbia, SC 29201-3101
(803) 929-3405; Fax: (803) 929-3439
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-----Original Message-----
From: Hankel, Hallie [mailto:hhankel@JEFFERSON.LIB.LA.US]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Organic Gardening: title change? again?

Hello Everyone:

Even though the rules say you don't have to use a new record, can we
have the choice to do so?

We like the new title and record because Organic Gardening is what the
magazine is commonly known as. Our patrons and staff never got used to
calling it OG, and now they don't have to.


Hallie Hankel
Serials Librarian
Jefferson Parish Library
Metairie, La.
504-838-1100 ext. 253

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Shadle [mailto:shadle@U.WASHINGTON.EDU]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Organic Gardening: title change? again?

Anna -- Because under current rules this is not a major change, please use
the record for OG (#51989049), I will report #51989049 for deletion.
Since no other CONSER library has stepped forward on this and we have a
current subscription, I'll take care of it.  Unfortunately, neither
May/June or July/Aug. issue is on shelf (it's the end of our term and
sometimes things get squirreled away), but hopefully an issue will surface
in the next day or two.  --Steve

     Steve Shadle  *******
     Serials Cataloger                                *****
     University of Washington Libraries, Box 352900    ***
     Seattle, WA 98195               (206) 685-3983     *

On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Creech, Anna wrote:

 > I think you misunderstood me.  "OG" is the title according to the most
 > current DLC record, however the past two issues have had the title
 > "Organic Gardening".  My question is, do I use the new record for
 > "Organic Gardening"?  As of today, 94 other libraries have listed it in
 > their holding, but the record for "OG" is still open (and held by 707
 > libraries).
 > Thank you to everyone who has responded, but I still am unsure about
 > whether to go ahead and use the new record even though the old one is
 > still open.  I understand that it is a minor change to go from the
 > acronym to the full title, but even though it was a minor change to go
 > from the full title to the acronym, a new record was created and used,
 > apparently, and thus the source of my uncertainty.
 > Anna Creech
 > (reminding myself that in 1000 years, none of this will matter)
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Enrique Gildemeister [mailto:RGildem550@AOL.COM]
 > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:52 AM
 > Subject: Re: Organic Gardening: title change? again?
 > Anna,
 > Regarding the problem presented by your last two titles, the CONSER
 > cataloging manual, in module 16, p. 11, says:
 > "If the entire title is replaced by a full form or acronym (or vice


 > consider the change also to be *minor*."  So, Organic gardening --> OG

is a

 > minor change.
 > This means that you don't set up a new record.  Ignore the new record for


 > present in OCLC and just make a 246 in your latest Organic Gardening, to


 > the situation.  What I always do in cases like this is try to make a
 > decision and then keep in a folder copies of all my problem records.

Then, look

 > them up in OCLC every couple of weeks.  Who knows?  Like everybody else,


 > CONSER libraries can be inconsistent, and you'll learn a lot in the


 > Just the other day there was a related problem discussed on AUTOCAT, and


 > one seemed to agree on how to how to interpret the applicable written

rules and

 > policies.
 > Good luck!
 > Rick Gildemeister
 > formerly Serials and Documents Cataloger
 > Lehman College, CUNY