I think we're leaning a little heavy on T & F here. They
did announce these changes here on Serialst by means of a
message from Ashleigh Bell with Subject: Change in print
frequency for selected T&F journals, posted to this
discussion list on 1/17/06. That announcement was followed
by some back and forth that included links to
http://www.tandf.co.uk/libsite/print_less.pdf
The pdf lists the titles and provided information ahead of
time on which online issues were going to be combined into
which print issues.

As far as I'm concerned, T & F did everything they could
to tell us what to expect (as Jeanette asked for). The
only thing I don't like was the combination pattern for
Inhalation Toxicology. All other titles have an equal
number of online issues being combined in each print issue
(i.e. 9 online become 3 print, 12 online become 4 print,
etc). For Inhalation Toxicology, they combine 14 online
issues into 4 print issues so we can't predict a print
issue for every 3 online issues. That said, the rest were
very straight forward.

While my ideas are my own and only my own, I will list my
affiliation as usual.
J.

J. Shore
Systems Librarian - MEDLINE Quality Assurance
National Library of Medicine
Bethesda, MD, USA
shorej@cablespeed.com

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:01:41 -0500
  "Skwor, Jeanette" <skworj@UWGB.EDU> wrote:
> Mr. Lucas states:
> -------------------------------------
> Yes, if T & F has
> changed the groupings of the print issues then this can
>create a
> check-in problem, however this can be overcome by using
>our expertise
> and knowledge of the situation. We can correct the
>prediction in our
> systems, alert our staff,  and watch the site for 2007.
>That is one of
> our jobs.
> -------------------------------------
>
> Am I in the minority who does not consider it part of
>her job to search
> publishers websites to see if they are changing the
>frequency from that
> which is printed in the issue I have in hand?
> And if I am, where are the rest of you finding the time?
>
> Or am I totally not understanding something?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeanette Skwor
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum
> [mailto:SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of John Lucas
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:01 PM
> To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Taylor & Francis, Haworth, and
>pages per volume
>
> Here is just my $ .02 worth. Actually more than that.
>
> When I first found out about these titles, as I recall
>there was an
> announcement on the T & F site, and I thought some
>mention of it on
> SERIALIST.    I checked and found 2 or 3 titles
>affecting us, I do not
> recall the titles now,  however the 'proposed' print
>schedules for those
> titles seemed uniform (nos. 1-4, nos. 5-8) but may have
>changed.
>
> I believe T & F indicated that the electronic issues
>would come out as
> they had previously no. 1, no. 2, no. 3 etc. (possibly
>on the same time
> frame).
>
> If that is the case, then citations sent to the indexes
>and abstracts
> (Medline, et al.) would reflect that electronic issue
>and not the print
> which comes out later.
>
> This would be similiar to e-only journals such as the
>BioMed Central
> titles where issues are closed off and the next issue
>opened.
>
> The printed 'archive' issues would be combined.   Yes,
>if T & F has
> changed the groupings of the print issues then this can
>create a
> check-in problem, however this can be overcome by using
>our expertise
> and knowledge of the situation. We can correct the
>prediction in our
> systems, alert our staff,  and watch the site for 2007.
>That is one of
> our jobs.
>
> The number of titles doing this was small, and I assume,
>a test to see
> if this model had possibilities.  Obviously there would
>have to be some
> tweaking and if T & F feels this can be debugged to save
>them some costs
> as Barbara believes (I also) then this would be expanded
>to include more
> of their journals.
>
> Please forgive 'fuzziness' in my thoughts, as I am
>engrossed with Annual
> report.
>
>
>
>
> John Lucas
>
> Serials Librarian
> University of Mississippi Medical Center 2500 North
>State St Jackson, MS
> 39216-4505
>
> (PH) (601) 984-1277
> (FAX)  ( 601) 984-1262
> JLUCAS@ROWLAND.UMSMED.EDU
>
>>>> Dietsch.Barbara@EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV 7/13/2006 12:56 PM >>>
> Actually Bill, I don't think it is the end of the
>matter.  You've been
> discussing philosophies and opinions from a publisher's
>point of view.
>
> I requested practical comments on how library workers
>were handling the
> print/online enumeration discrepancies in their
>day-to-day work.  We
> have to come up with a solution on how to deal with this
>problem, and it
> is a problem for serials technical staff.
>
> I don't think this situation is about "policy" per say,
>but  how do
> librarians and library patrons deal with decisions made
>by publishers
> which often are not logical or straightforward for the
>user.
>
> But..........another spin on
>philosophies..........basically, you are
> selling a product, and if the customer is unhappy with
>changes or
> inconsistencies with the product, it is of benefit to
>both the producer
> and consumer to give feedback on how it affects them and
>why.  Both
> Haworth and Taylor & Francis are for-profit publishers.
> You are selling
> a product to make money.  Librarians and library users
>are one segment
> of your customer base.
>
> Serialists send your suggestions and comments on
>practical solutions to
> this unavoidable and irritating irregularity.
>
> Thanks!
>
> barb
>
> barb dietsch | serials coordinator
> epa library | unc contract staff
> 109 tw alexander drive | mail code c267-01 research
>triangle park, nc
> 27711
> phone: 919.541.0726
> fax: 919.541.1405
> dietsch.barbara@epa.gov
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> Steve:
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> I respectfully disagree, and totally.   Your own history
>in this
> area is completely documented, and I think librarians
>can decide on
> their own what policy they choose.
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> Let us consider this an end to the matter.
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> Thank you for your constructive help.
>
> Bill Cohen, Publisher
> The Haworth Press, Inc.
> www.HaworthPress.com