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Re: Difficulties with journal title displays Donley, Leah (21 Feb 2013 14:09 UTC)
Re: Difficulties with journal title displays Griffin, Glenda (22 Feb 2013 14:43 UTC)

Re: Difficulties with journal title displays Donley, Leah 21 Feb 2013 14:09 UTC

I fully understand that there is not often time for this, but I've had some luck with contacting both our link resolver/e-journal list provider and the publisher and pointing out why it's a problem and requesting that they correct it.  The link resolvers usually have to follow the metadata provided by the publisher, and the formatting of the publisher's website, but it usually at least gets them to also contact the publisher and let them know that a customer is requesting the change.  I've found that pointing to the PIE-J and KBART links can help, along with pointing out to publishers that users will be less likely to find the content they're looking for, and in turn, to download and read articles from their website when they make it difficult to find journal titles and content.

While some publishers respond with variations of "sorry, we're not changing it", I've had some positive responses where the publishers were already considering making the change and the request gave them the needed push or they just weren't aware of the extent of the issue from the user/library side and happily made the corrections.

And when it works, the benefit can be widespread - publishers change their sites, the link resolvers have correct information, and in turn the tools on our website are more reliable and easier to use :) Also, in general, I really appreciate the efforts of PIE-J and KBART.

Regards,
Leah Donley
Brookhaven National Laboratory
donley@bnl.gov

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From: Griffin, Glenda [mailto:GIG002@SHSU.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Difficulties with journal title displays

Thank you Stephanie for your response.  We are just starting to consider the possibility of creating custom lists in our A-Z as you are to include the title changes.  It takes so much time and effort though.  Whew.  Job security, yes?
You mentioned getting accurate lists before agreeing to purchase.  This is a subject I really would like to bring up and highlight with the people in our library who control the purse strings.  I would like for them to consult me or at least allow me to offer my opinion before they buy these journal packages and/or backfiles.  The way the content is delivered and displayed is a huge factor in accessibility for users - yet, this oddly, never seems to get the right kind of consideration.  I wish you luck in your quest to get accurate information before agreeing to purchase.  If you could offer me any tips in this area, I would appreciate it.  Thanks so much for your input.

We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.  (T.S. Eliot)

Glenda Griffin

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From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Larrison, Stephanie A
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Difficulties with journal title displays

Glenda and Shirley,

We know exactly what you are saying and see the same thing.   Like Shirley, we discover the former titles in the OCLC bib records.  Our procedures are to have a separate bib record for each version of the title.  We have to create custom links in our AtoZ list for the former titles, then we adjust the holdings of the current title so it is accurate.  After we have separate links for each version of the title, we link them to the cataloged records.

Next time we get a backfile, I'll try to insist that we receive an accurate list including all title changes,  ISSNs, and URLs before agreeing to purchase.

Stephanie Larrison
Electronic Resources Librarian
Texas State University
601 University Dr.
San Marcos, TX 78666

512-245-8613
SL24@txstate.edu

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From: Rais, Shirley (LLU) [mailto:srais@LLU.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Difficulties with journal title displays

We link all of our subscribed titles in our catalog and in our A-Z link resolver listing.   We usually catalog them before putting them in our A-Z, so we discover the title changes from the OCLC bib record.    If our A-Z provider does not have the previous titles for the publisher, then we put them in a library created database so they will be available.

We also purchased the backfile of the title in Glenda's example:   American Journal of Evaluation.  It has 2 previous titles:  Evaluation Practice (1986-1997), and Evaluation News from 1981-1985.       This particular publisher sort of compounds the problem of finding earlier manifestations of a title by only identifying the current title even when you access a previous title.    For example, if I want a 1981 article from Evaluation News, I'll go to the American Journal of Evaluation home page--this is pretty standard for other publishers.  However, when I go to a 1981 issue, Evaluation News is still identified as the American Journal of Evaluation in the Table of Contents for the older issues AND in the title cover sheet for the PDF.   So, if someone printed the PDF , the cover sheet doesn't say Evaluation News, it says American Journal of Evaluation.   This is not a fluke for this particular title.  It is the standard way this publisher handles older titles.  I could give !

 many more examples.   The only way I've seen to discover that I really am in the older title is to open a PDF and hope that the "real" journal title shows up somewhere!    In many older journals it wasn't the practice to put the journal title on each page of an issue.

Shirley Rais, MLS  -  Chair, Serials & Electronic Resources Dept.
Library Liaison to the School of Public Health LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY | University Libraries

11072 Anderson Street, Loma Linda, California 92350 office (909) 558-4583 .  fax (909) 558-4919 .   srais@llu.edu

-----Original Message-----
From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Griffin, Glenda
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:23 AM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Difficulties with journal title displays

I am aware of the work being done by the PIE-J working group and also KBART, but doesn't this still depend on each content provider choosing to follow recommended practices.  It is my opinion, that dividing titles out when there are title changes takes time and money.  They have to pay people, I would assume, to take care of these details.  I am of the opinion that many will be unwilling to comply.  So, I guess a better question to this list is this:  how are other libraries dealing with this problem?

We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.  (T.S. Eliot)

Glenda Griffin

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From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [mailto:SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Reynolds, Regina
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:09 PM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [SERIALST] Difficulties with journal title displays

Hello Glenda,

NISO and the PIE-J working group share your frustration!  To provide publishers and other providers with guidance about how to avoid causing these kinds of problems, the PIE-J working group is very close to completing a set of recommended practices.  Two key recommendations are for publishers and providers to place all e-content under the title that content had when it was originally published and to list and  index all titles held by a publication over the course of its history. The NISO document should be published some time in March 2013.  A copy of the basic recommendations will be included with each ISSN assignment made by the U.S. ISSN Center along with a link to the full document which includes many screen shots from publisher web sites showing a variety of ways to comply with the recommendations.

More information can be found at the following URL:

http://www.niso.org/workrooms/piej/

Please email me if you'd like more information.

Regina Romano Reynolds
Head, ISSN Publisher Liaison Section
Director, U.S. ISSN Center
Library of Congress
rrey@loc.gov

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From: SERIALST: Serials in Libraries Discussion Forum [SERIALST@list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of Griffin, Glenda [GIG002@SHSU.EDU]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 5:29 PM
To: SERIALST@LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: [SERIALST] Difficulties with journal title displays

Greetings-
This topic for sure has been discussed here before.  However, I would like to collect some responses in order to highlight this particular problem and bring it to the attention of important persons at my library.  If you would like to share your response with the list, please reply to this query.  If you would care to email me off-list, please do so at gig002@shsu.edu<mailto:gig002@shsu.edu>.  Thank you.

Problem:
We have an electronic journal title called American Journal of Evaluation.  The dates on the catalog record for that title are 1998 to present.  We do not link our electronic journals directly to the database, but instead send our users to the entry in our A-Z Journal Finder.  This catalog record for American Journal of Evaluation links correctly to its entry in the A-Z Journal Finder.  The problem arose when we bought a backfile from the same vendor which included coverage back beyond 1998.  Back beyond 1998 the journal had a different title - Evaluation practice.  However, the vendor did not create separate entries for each journal title.  Instead, all coverage is listed under the later version of the title.  A user with a citation for the previous title Evaluation practice will find an entry in the A-Z alright, but that entry lists other vendors with later coverage dates.  The one and only entry with the most coverage for Evaluation Practice is hidden under the later vers!

 ion of the title.  How do I deal with this?  And by the way, this only one example - there are more titles in this backfile with this problem than there are those without this problem. Almost 500 titles - double or triple that number when you include the title changes.  Having to deal with these one at a time because of this issue.  Very, very tedious and time-consuming.  And this is only one vendor - many information providers practice this method of content delivery.

Creating two links in the catalog record - one to Evaluation Practice and one to American Journal of Evaluation simply leads to confusion.  Our ILS grabs the first url and displays it in the hit list.  A user must search to find the other link.  And that still does not solve the problem of content under the incorrect title heading.  Help.

We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.  (T.S. Eliot)

Glenda Griffin
Serials Cataloger
Newton Gresham Library
Sam Houston State University
Box 2281
Huntsville, Texas 77341-2281
936-294-3589
gig002@shsu.edu

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