If you want to have fun with Quebecois, get into the whole issue about whose French is the real French? They claim continental French has picked up so many loan-words and phrases from other languages and has degraded and changed so much that their french, supposedly closer to 17th century continental French, is much more true to the roots of the language.

The continental French, being French, just shrug, roll their eyes, and shake their heads and return to their coffee.

And then if I get going with Manitoba francophones or the Acadians, there's a whole other perspective.

Here's one some of you will know but likely not know the history of:

Kid's counting scheme: Eenie, Meenie, Mini, Moh...

Turns out that (not spelled as such) is actually 1 to 4 in some Gaelic version.

So there you go! You're multi-lingual now.

ObTrav - How inconsistent is the Vilani language between the home planet and the fringes of the Empire? And to those in the immediate vicinity of Vland get all touchy about how the 'colonists' have 'butchered' their beautiful language? Or, being calm and Vilani, do they just generate reams of academic papers describing how further-flung users of Vilani are non-compliant with the authorized general standards of language usage?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:27 AM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
Here's another one just come to mind;

When I was six the family found itself on a remote USAF base where french was the 2nd language (former colony).
We weren't there for long but, unbeknownst to me, a lot of 'new' words that I learned from the other kids, were NOT just local slang but actually french!
Didn't realize that for several years actually!

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On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 12:36:49 PM MST, Timothy Collinson - timothy. collinson at port. ac. uk <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:


On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 06:12, <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
Favourites from my Scots cousins and mother:

They are great, the Scots, for having some wonderful bits of language.

Lots snipped that I know by osmosis; lots that would stymie me.

(I'm from the other end of the land mass).


Confab - a conversation


This I probably wouldn't use, but wouldn't be surprised at it and wouldn't have particularly associated it with Scottish folk.



"Dinnae fash!" (don't get overwrought)

I'd actually understand this from my Dad (& Mum) who were both Geordies (north of England - from Tyneside) and my Dad's old performances of the song The Lambton Worm - in full dialect. It's years since they lived "oop north" so there's no trace of accent now.  I'm the eldest and was born in Plymouth (south coast) thanks to Dad's naval career.  (Although my Mum was in the WRNS - I believe they met over the engine of a Phantom jet, or that's the story they tell, and my brother in the Royal Naval Reserves).  So I've never spoken with a Geordie accent but IIRC there's a line in the song about "fash your gobs".


"Ah dinnae ken..." (I don't get it)

Ah!  That's your cliched Scots impression line.


"It's a dreich day!" (cold, damp and miserable - archetypal Scots weather!) (and most popular for infantry exercises)

dreich is obscure, but many know it.  I know it from sharing an office for a year or three with a Scot.

"Malingerer!" - (someone lazy - Grandad used to tease me with this and accused me of "Swingin' the lead" as well.

This is Scots is it?  Very well known all over in that case.



Traditional Amazing Grace on the pipes at funerals


I like the idea of this but I think it would have to be a with music being played in the gaming room.  A pure description of this just wouldn't have the emotional impact.

Folk who wear a stocking knife and the superstition is it must draw blood before it is drawn or an ill fate will befall the wielder (your own blood will do so you can prick yourself)

Ummm, surely it must draw blood before it's sheathed?!

Or do stocking knives stick out at an angle?!



In a clannish (Gov't Type 1) situation, you could have clan feuds which would embroil unwary travellers.

Funnily enough, I've just been writing such...  :-)  Perhaps I'll go back and layer on some Scots for atmosphere.







On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 11:31 PM Timothy Collinson - timothy.collinson at port.ac.uk (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:


On Tue, 9 Jun 2020, 01:48 Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list), <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
This all reminds me of when my Dad (USAAF,USAF, WWII, Korea)  went TDY to London for some months when I was young.

There you go... had to look up TDY!

Leonard wrote:

>As to rubbers, for some of us older folks they were a sort of
>waterproof thing that went over your shoes (and didn't extend up to
>your ankles, as opposed to overshoes which were a sort of boot).

surely that's a galosh!?

tc


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