It should also be noted that in the United States maritime services (USN,
USCG), the enlisted ranks E-4 and above are called "Petty Officers".

Based on discussions with USN and USCG personnel (and I believe we have at
least one member of the list who is retired USCG), it appears that
day-to-day usage in the maritime services is not by rank, but by rate: that
is, while Joe Tinker is of _rank_ E-4 (Petty Officer Third Class), his
_rating_ is that of 'Machinist', and is thus generally "Machinist [3]
Tinker" rather than "Petty Officer Tinker".

You can find information about US forces ranks and pay grades at the
following URLs:

Army:        https://www.federalpay.org/military/army/ranks
Navy:        https://www.federalpay.org/military/navy/ranks
Air Force:    https://www.federalpay.org/military/air-force/ranks
Marine Corps: https://www.federalpay.org/military/marine-corps/ranks
Coast Guard:  https://www.federalpay.org/military/coast-guard/ranks

In general, while on paper, there are five "Warrant Officer" ranks (ranging
from Warrant Officer 1 to Chief Warrant Officer 5), the actual appointment
of personnel to these ranks is, in practice, slowly being phased out, and
not all services have all five ranks represented in their tables of rank.

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:53:28 -0400, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:

>US: WOs appointed by service secretary, dept secretary or
>Commander-in-Chief. Commissioned Officers, albeit between the E-ranks and
>the O-1 rank. CW2+ appointed by Commander-in-Chief. All flavours of Warrant
>and Chief Warrant hold a warrant.
>Canada: 3 senior enlisted ranks (above Sergeant - Warrant Officer, Master
>Warrant Officer, and Chief Warrant Officer though the Navy calls them Petty
>Officers (PO1, CPO1, CPO2)), appointments by Chief of Defense Staff, CWO
>has a warrant from the Queen, others do not.
>
>Canadian Ranks look like:
>
>Other Ranks: (Junior Ranks)
>Private
>
>Junior NCOs:
>Corporal
>Master Corporal*
>
>Senior NCMs:
>Sergeant
>
>Warrant Officers:
>Warrant Officer
>Master Warrant Officer
>Chief Warrant Officer**
>
>* Master Corporals hold authority over Corporals, but are still Corporals
>(MCpl is an appointment, not a rank)
>** CWO gets that Warrant from the Crown, but I don't think they get treated
>in all ways as an Officer
>
>Traditionally, Warrant Officers (and PO1/CWO1/CWO2) are seen as
>non-commissioned ranks, but they are not NCOs (that stops with Sergeant).
>Their roles are not technical specialists like in the US, they are usually
>2ics in various formations (battalions and up). They can command up to a
>company, but usually we have officers for that.
>
>US Warrants are technical specialist commissioned officers, but they are
>considered of lesser precedence than O-1 and higher ranks. They tend to be
>advisors and can command formations but their focus is a technical one,
>rather than tactical command.
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:27 PM Thomas RUX <xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi kaladorn,
>>
>> The USN was pretty much based on the RN with modifications with the
>> President as the Commander in Chief versus the ruling Queen/King. Of course
>> we also lost out on the rum ration.
>>
>> Tom Rux
>>
>> On 07/27/2020 10:18 AM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info, Tom.
>>
>> I was curious because your US commissions have a different basis than ours
>> (I believe). Our still are a 'commission from the Queen' and I think yours
>> somehow are based around Congress or some such? Your Warrant Officers work
>> a bit differently too than ours (British system) do. I'm always interested
>> in how different militaries operate as compared to the one I'm more
>> familiar with.
>>
>> TomB
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:09 AM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi kaladorn,
>>
>> My apologies for the delay.
>>
>> On 07/25/2020 3:14 PM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Let me ask a followup:
>>
>> Who does it apply to?
>>
>> Enlisted and officers in the USN and USMC.
>>
>> USN only or does it cover attached USMC ?
>>
>> The USMC is part of the Department of the Navy. The CO of the USMC
>> detachment assigned to a ship would usually be the person conducting the
>> Captain's Mast, however the ship's CO can also hold a Captain's Mast for
>> the USMC.
>>
>> Does it only apply to non-commissioned ranks?
>>
>> Technically, all naval personnel can be judged by a Captain's mast.
>>
>> Does it include warrant officers?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Can officers have their commission revoked or only be reduced in rank?
>>
>> I was an NCO and never saw an officer go to Captain's Mast so my comments
>> are probably OTL.
>>
>> My impression is that an officer can not have their commission revoked but
>> there will be a strong suggestion that the offender resign their
>> commission. In theory the officer can be busted in pay grade/rank, however
>> the more likely course of action would be they would be barred from further
>> promotions and not allowed to re-enlist.
>>
>> Tom Rux
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020, 16:29 Thomas RUX, < xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi kaladorn and Alex,
>>
>> A Captain's Mast is a legal proceeding that the ship's Commanding Officer
>> (CO)holds when a sailor (enlisted or officer) violates the Uniform Code of
>> Military Justice. The hearing is non-judicial and the CO's judgement leaves
>> no criminal record in the sailor's record. However, the punishments while
>> in port can be restriction of not more than 60 days, extra duties for not
>> more than 45 days, reduction in grade (rank), correctional custody for not
>> more than 30 days, confinement on bread and water for not more than 3 days.
>> At sea or ashore forfeiture of not more than half a month's pay per month
>> for 2 months, or detention of half a month's pay per 3 months. The
>> reduction in rank also throws your advancement cycle out of whack.
>>
>> Tom Rux
>>
>> On 07/25/2020 9:52 AM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Administrative punishment (vs. a legal proceeding) if I understand
>> correctly. It's not something you want to face. I believe it exists so that
>> crews can deal with bad choices without having to leave too much of a
>> permanent mark in somebody's personnel jacket.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:09 PM Alex Goodwin <
>> xxxxxx@multitel.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 26/7/20 12:03 am, Thomas RUX wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > During my time in the USN 1975-1995 we did not legally have booze
>> > onboard except for a bit held by the corpsman. I've got a cousin who
>> > is currently serving in the USN and from what he tells me the policy
>> > is still enforce.
>> >
>> > Of course, more often than not someone will have a go at making an
>> > alcoholic beverage. Getting caught making the booze or bring any
>> > onboard is going to result in the very least a Captain's mast.
>> >
>> > Tom Rux
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> What does "Captain's mast" translate to?  An official bollocking?
>>
>>
>> Alex
>>
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