On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 11:09:29 AM MST, Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote:


On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 17:37:53 +0000 (UTC), "Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at
yahoo.com (via tml list)" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote to Freelance
Traveller:

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>    On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 05:34:11 AM MST, Jeff Zeitlin <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote: 
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> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:22:08 +0000 (UTC), Phil Pugliese wrote:
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>>Don't forget to include the US Army & USAF Reserve units which are NOT part
>>of the National Guard but are still components of the US Armed Forces.They
>>have 'full-time' & 'part-time' members similar to the Guard but are not
>>under the control of the state gov or his AG.

>They are part of the _Armed Forces_, but are _not_ part of the _Militia_,
>any more than the "regular Army" (Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps) are.

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>Exactly & I didn't mean to imply otherwise but when you posted this;

>"... (or the Reserve arm of services that don't have NationalGuard
>detachments, like the Navy) more or less does, since you're already
>_voluntarily_ in Federal service..."

This was in describing those _members_of_the_Militia_ who are "exempt" from
the draft by virtue of being in Federal service voluntarily - The Naval
Reserve _is_ part of the Militia, although the non-National-Guard Reserve
components of the Army and Air Force are _not_. No, I don't know why the
difference.

>BTW, where does the USCG reserve figure in to this?Most of what I've seen &
>heard came from the old 'SeaHunt' TV series w/ Lloyd Bridges starring as
>'Mike Nelson'.

The Coast Guard is an oddball in the United States Armed Forces - until
recently, in peacetime, it technically was _not_ part of the Armed Forces,
but of the Department of Transportation, and arguably its history suggests
that it should have also had links to the Department of the Treasury. (I'm
not sure what its present peacetime status is under DHS.) During wartime,
however, it is 'seconded' to the Navy. In any case, neither the USCG
"regular" arm nor the USCG Reserve are part of the Militia.

I believe that we have at least one retired "Coastie" on the list; perhaps
he would be willing to chime in with more accurate information.

Jeff Zeitlin, Editor

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As another exception; I don't believe a state gov has any authority over a USN Reserve unit, despite their status as part of the 'militia'.

Speaking of which;

A member of the campus police was in the USNReserve & was called up for both Gulf Wars.
Spent a total of TWO YEARS on active duty 'tween both of them.
Since he was just a bottom-ranking 'officer' in the police, he was happy as hell to get called up.
His USN Reserve rank was LtCmdr (O4) for the 1st time & Capt (O6) for the second.
I think he's the only guy I knew who actually got paid more (a whole lot more in his case) when they were called up.
There was a Sgt on the same police force who was called up as a USAF Staff Sgt (E5) who got somewhat less pay then he did as a civvie & he wasn't too happy.
He was lucky though as he was assigned to the Security Police (USAF MP's) at the local USAF base so he didn't even have to leave home.

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