Any simple calculation that shows a factor of 2 drop in temperature in constant time is simply wrong; given that heat storage is roughly linear in temperature while heat loss is fourth order in temperature, the time required to halve temperature will vary with the -3rd power of the temperature. It might, however, be about right for the first halving.

 

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This article quotes a cooling rate of a factor of two every two months -- so from a starting point of 300K, you'd hit 150K after two months, 75K after four, and so forth. That works out to roughly 30K the first week -- enough to bring the global average below freezing. It doesn't take long after that for (the tops of the) oceans to freeze over. Atmospheric gasses only start raining out after three months, so we're good there. :) I'd still call a >30K global drop an emergency, though.

 

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OK, let's get back to where it all started;
I believe the original post concerned a habitable planet moving into the shadow of the GG that it orbited, such event only occurring very infrequently (200yrs?) & only lasting for, I believe, several weeks.
Considering such a circumstance;
Would a few weeks really matter at all?
How long would it have to be for it to turn into more than a nuisance,   as opposed to a disaster?

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 Subject: Re: [TML] Dyson Sphereunderconstruction?
 To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 11:36 AM


 Well, even
 in winter you're getting some sunlight, plus atmospheric
 and oceanic circulation from the summer hemisphere. If you
 cut off all sunlight from reaching the Earth, it would be
 considerably more grim. 
 On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at
 11:24 AM, Bruce  Johnson <xxxxxx@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
 wrote:







 On Oct 28, 2015, at 10:11 AM,
 Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 wrote:



 Hmmmm, guess I'll have to think of something else for
 the storms.



 So, how long of a blackout is required to start killing
 plant life?





 Depends on the plant. Remember; deciduous trees go for
 6 or more months at a time without leaves, hence without
 need for sunlight. Depending on when the darkness happens,
 food crops would be dead within a few months. If it happened
 during springtime
  your crops would fail; if it were during the fall, you’d
 get that years crop.



 I found this with a cursory google search http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2003-10/1065676398.Bt.r.html




 How long does if have to be for big trees to be affected to
 the point that they could fall down (even if it
 doesn't happen till later)?





 This would  be VERY long…dead trees, in the absence of
 strong winds will remain standing for a very long time. 





 -- 

 Bruce Johnson

 University of Arizona

 College of Pharmacy

 Information Technology Group



 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs








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