Re: [TML] Nit Pickers guide to Mongoose Traveller. J. Michael Looney 13 Sep 2014 12:37 UTC
OK, my take a break from "Project Clean the House" today will be 1) Design LAC 2) Modify the all ready designed Torpedo boat to be 30 tons (That might be tricky, if not impossible, but 30 tons is one of the sweet spots in the small craft design system in MgT) 3) Design a 2Kton beat the crap out any thing near it's size cruiser. (Light in a Big Ship Traveller universe, Battle Ship in Small Ship universe) Works for me. On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Ian Whitchurch <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > Nukes are another important thing for combat in trav ... the tl 12 nuke > damper is one of the things that changes combat - TL11 and under is > dominated by nuke missiles, but at TL12, nukes just stop working. > > I'd be interested in seeing if something around 2000 dtons mounting a couple > of PAWs at TL12ish can be built under MgT - something designed to clean up > the frigates that eat the fighters that mount the capital-ship-killing > torpedos. > > If you can get it to pull around 4 gees and about a jump-3, that'd be almost > a perfect light cruiser. > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM, J. Michael Looney > <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I suspect so. Armor is fairly cheap, and 15 (the max) points makes you >> immune to lasers. You can't, on the other hand make yourself particle beam >> proof. Once I am awake let me see what I can do. In MgT, lasers in >> general are good only against lightly or unarmored ship/craft and as point >> defense. Which is why I made the comment about particle beams being better. >> For that matter non-nuke missles aren't all that great either. Armor is >> limited by TL, so it would take a TL 12 craft to be more or less immune to >> lasers. If you apply the personal combat rule that you add the effect (i.e >> the amount over 8 you rolled to hit, after all mods) to space craft combat, >> this makes lasers some what more dangerous. I MTU/game I do this. It still >> means that high armor craft (small and ship both) can tend to shrug off 1d6 >> and 2d6 weapons, unless the laser has both a well trained and lucky gunner. >> Assuming gunner skill of 4 and a roll of 12 to hit that is plus 8 to damage, >> which makes the max damage for a pulse laser 14 points, but one side effect >> of the effect rule would be that an effect over 6 lets 1 point in, >> regardless of armor, which gives you a chance of hurting even a 15 armor >> craft. A single one point hit will not kill a 50 dTon craft, but two, >> depend on where the hit, can. Just as an example, a 100 dTon ship takes at >> least 8 single point hits to kill. >> >> In a couple of hours let me toss together a LAC and a torpedo boat and see >> what can be done. >> >> >> On Saturday, September 13, 2014, Ian Whitchurch <xxxxxx@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> OK, wearing the fact you can build a 50dton small craft with two ship >>> killing weapons ... can that 50dton craft happily eat the kind of lasers >>> that fit into one-per-100dton turrets ? >>> >>> If they can't, then I'll be sending in against your "capital ship >>> destroyer" multiple small anti-destroyer ships with light guns as a screen ? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Not to put too fine a point on it, and I'm not trying it start a >>>> version flame war or any thing, but I don't play CT,MT, TNE (shudder), >>>> T4 or T5, so what those rules say about a given topic are sort of, as >>>> I'm found of saying, orthogonal to the debate. I play MgT, and if I >>>> wanted to I could make ship killing LAC, ala Honor Harrington series >>>> with out to much work. Might be pushing it to call them a fighter but >>>> a 50 dTon small craft could carry two shipping killing weapons (to >>>> include a pair of torpedoes, but would be defenseless after launch. >>>> ----- >>>> The Traveller Mailing List >>>> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >>>> Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please goto >>>> http://archives.simplelists.com >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> The Traveller Mailing List >>> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >>> Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com >>> To unsubscribe from this list please goto >>> http://archives.simplelists.com >> >> ----- >> The Traveller Mailing List >> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >> Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com >> To unsubscribe from this list please goto >> http://archives.simplelists.com > > > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com > To unsubscribe from this list please goto > http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=nxrDtFdMUuRm7Wsf3AOGTO5KWLVBt3I8