Re: [TML] Relic tech and Scarcity-Driven Imperium (was: Salvage Operations (and Submarines)) Phil Pugliese 31 Mar 2016 01:27 UTC

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On Wed, 3/30/16, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] Relic tech and Scarcity-Driven Imperium (was: Salvage Operations (and Submarines))
 To: "xxxxxx@simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2016, 5:02 PM

 > On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:52 PM, Phil Pugliese (via tml
 list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 wrote:
 >
 > (Or maybe the TU just hasn't  made it into a
 position analogous to the '20th century'  yet? Maybe it
 never will? Maybe it will, eventually?)

 Here’s the thing. The OTU == 18th Century referred pretty
 much to one single thing: communications moved at the speed
 of physical travel. News, orders, secret messages, et al
 don’t get there until a ship actually travels to the
 destination.

 This has significant implications about how military
 operations work, fleet doctrine, multi-world governance, etc
 etc etc.

 It didn’t mean merchants were loading bales of cotton,
 casks of nails and bundles of sailcloth into the hold of
 their ship in large cargo nets. Duh they used standardized
 containers like anyone else in the 21st, 23rd or 24th
 century. <http://www.worldshipping.org/about-the-industry/history-of-containerization>

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Well, that's the way *you* want to see it, 'cuz then you can arrive at the conclusion/result that you desire.

I simply maintain that it extends to the way maritime operations are conducted in the TU to a larger extent than you do.

It's not all or nothing.
10,000kDT merchant vessels (container or not) w/o massive Mega-DT ones does NOT mean that you have to load things by hand!

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