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On Thu, 5/12/16, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: K'kree vs Hiver, was Re: [TML] GMing Manipulations
 To: "tml" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Thursday, May 12, 2016, 10:18 PM

 On Fri, May 13, 2016 at
 12:00 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 wrote:
 AND, just
 sit & wait to see what that EVIL is going to do next?

 Nope. The leaders chose to deny (in
 the psychological sense) that the Evil Magic ever existed.
 Because to do otherwise was to risk the entire Herd going
 insane.
 Only a handful
 of top K'kree knew the real story, after all. This was
 quite deliberate on the part of the Hivers, done in order to
 allow the leaders to *have* the option to simply deny
 reality and quietly go away.
 Because if the manipulation had been
 widely revealed, then the reaction *would* have unavoidably
 been the panicked stampede that you propose.
 Such an unreasoning panic would have
 simply killed a whole lot of sentients on both sides, to no
 good purpose. Given the realities of Traveller space combat
 - and particularly the naval disadvantages under which
 K'kree labor (i.e. warships which waste massive
 percentages of internal volume in an effort to compensate
 for K'kree claustrophobia) - the war would have
 eventually resulted in a stalemate. Perhaps even in a Hiver
 victory, since the K'kree would have been carrying it
 out as fanatics, rather than as reasoning
 strategists.

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Nah, the manipulation had to be known to more than a few higher poo-bahs 'cuz wiping out the world/s wouldn't have happened otherwise.
Not a trivial endeavor at all.
Also, the K'kree were winning quite handily already so amping things up would've just hastened the Hiver defeat.
No, it's  just gotta' be a really large-scale Manipulation.
The Hiver's must've been twisting the K'kree for a very long time, esp. considering how they were able to precisely control their behavior.
A smaller manipulation w/i a much larger one would explain it all nicely.
Then there's the question of the K'kree's relationship w/ the 3I.
I recall some (at least one, anyway) TNS dispatches mentioning a visit to the S'Marches by a K'kree trading delegation, of all things.
I guess if they'll tolerate humans they'll tolerate just about *anything*.  ;-)
So, the Hivers have managed to curb the K'Kree's desire to 'smite the non-veggies'.
I wonder how long it'll take them to Manipulate them into Ithklur(sp?)v2?

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