Sources of hydrogen in system
Christopher Sean Hilton
(16 Oct 2016 22:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Sources of hydrogen in system
Tim
(17 Oct 2016 02:40 UTC)
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RE: [TML] Sources of hydrogen in system
James Davies
(17 Oct 2016 08:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Sources of hydrogen in system shadow@xxxxxx (18 Oct 2016 06:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Sources of hydrogen in system
C. Berry
(18 Oct 2016 19:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Sources of hydrogen in system
shadow@xxxxxx
(18 Oct 2016 22:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Sources of hydrogen in system shadow@xxxxxx 18 Oct 2016 06:23 UTC
On 16 Oct 2016 at 18:17, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > I'm thinking about sources of hydrogen in a system because I'm seeing > a few extended system that have neither gas giants nor ice/fluid > worlds. > > Firstly, I say fluid because I assume that someone with a fusion plant > has enough energy at there disposal to electrically or otherwise > seperate hydrogen from any Carbon-Hydrogen or Nitrogen-Hydrogen > compound without too much work. My first question is: "Is this a good > assumption?" > > Secondly, as I look at extended systems, I find that there are many > that feature neither fluid nor "ice" nor gas giants. In such a system > I would figure that the only source of hydrogen would be the Oort > Cloud. In Sol Terra, this region starts at about 11 light-days > (wikipedia) from the Sol. Is this beyond the endurance range of a ship > that hasn't got enough fuel to jump? > > I would figure that this would seriously depress trade within such a > system. At least it would make such a system dependent on a fleet of > fuel tankers which regularly run from the mainworld to the oort cloud > and back. Am I barking up the wrong tree here? Asteroid belts inside the "ice line" may still have carbonaceous chondrites. They've got heavier hydrocarbons and other organics. They'd get processed for the carbon, hydrogen and nitrogen, all of which are needed for life support systems. Ones *outside* the ice line will have icy bodies as well as the other assortment of asteroid types. and, there will be comets and the like that pass thru the inner system. In a system like you are talking about, they'd probably have ships drop a processing module on tyhem as soon as they are spotted and process them for hydrogen, nitrogen, carbon and anything else you can't get from "rocky" bodies. So you probably don't have to go all the way out to the Oort cloud. The "ice line" in our system is a bit oinside Jupiter's orbit. Mind you, if there aren't GGs and there aren't worlds with apprciable fluid percentages, they system must have formed from, a nebula that was poor in volatiles, so expect all the things I've mentioned to be a lot rarer than in a normal system. But they should still be around to some extent. -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow) shadow at shadowgard dot com