Re: [TML] Changing The Jump Drive Limit? Phil Pugliese (25 Jul 2017 22:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Changing The Jump Drive Limit?
Kurt Feltenberger
(26 Jul 2017 04:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Changing The Jump Drive Limit?
Bruce Johnson
(26 Jul 2017 15:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Changing The Jump Drive Limit? Phil Pugliese 25 Jul 2017 22:35 UTC
-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7/25/17, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] Changing The Jump Drive Limit? To: "xxxxxx@simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> Date: Tuesday, July 25, 2017, 1:29 PM > On Jul 25, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Even during 'The Long Night'? > > If they didn't have a high enough TL & "the starships just stopped coming", they wouldn't have much choice. > I believe in CT, TL9 allows J1 but suppose that's not good enough cuz' they's need J2+. > Or the system is TL8 & can't make their own J-drives? The Long Night is an ENTIRELY different scenario than what we were discussing. When Route 66 was supplanted by the interstate system trade didn’t cease; it merely bypassed certain areas. Under the pressures of the Long Night, any system that wanted or needed to build a jump drive could have put forth the effort. Being TL8 in the Imperium (1st, 2nd or 3rd) doesn’t mean ‘We don’t know Jump Drive exists or how to build it’; it means ‘We don’t have a Jump Drive factory in our system’. Now low-Pop TL8 world may not have that capability, but Pop9? certainly. It might be difficult and/or very expensive to build such a drive, but the knowledge is there, almost certainly. By the time of the Long Night, Jump Drive had been in use for MILLENNIA. The knowledge wasn’t lost. If NYC was suddenly cut off from the outside world, they wouldn’t forget how to make steel; it would just be expensive to build a plant from scratch. The Long Night also didn’t mean that all interstellar trade ceased; it’s just that what there was contracted enormously. The Vilani maintained a large multi-system trade network the whole time. What wasn’t there was a unified government over the entire Imperium. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And yet, still, many worlds were left on their own & did just fine. Which is the point that I intended to make... There's just no reason why a system w/ enough pop can't do that. In fact, a case could be made that a fairly low TL system that still had a large numbers actual living at that level, as can be found in many cases right here on this planet, all the way down to the Bushmen of the Kalahari, could also continue on indefinitely. Of course, those that had become dependant (over-dependant?) upon higher tech than the system could indigenously support would be hurting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------