On 19Apr2018 1752, shadow at shadowgard.com (via tml list) wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2018 at 22:53, Kurt Feltenberger wrote:
>
>> On 4/1/2018 9:36 PM, James Davies wrote:
>>      Great pic, thanks for sharing!
>>
>>      Modern warships devote space to galleys, kitchens, food storage
>>      etc. the crew don't eat MREs or frozen dinners routinely. When
>>      you're away from home for months at a time poor food is one of
>>      those things that can break you.
>>
>> Modern warships have the space to do this.  Traveller ships do not.
>> For the mess hall you will need about .5dton+ per person seated and
>> probably about about 1dton per 10 people served at a time.
>> Minimum.  And that doesn't count the stores.  You just can't pull
>> that amount of volume out of the stateroom allowance and still have a
>> viable ship with passages, staterooms, or any sort of privacy.
>
> There's likely your problem. Crew don't get staterooms. They get
> bunks. And not a lot of privacy. Officers get shared "staterooms" 2-4
> per room.
>
> The Captain and the exec get individual staterooms (and possibly some
> additional space) because they need it for private meetings and the
> like.

Note also that how much space you need for mess halls, etc., is to a
certain degree cultural. When the USN sent ships over the the UK in WWI
both navies took the opportunity to closely examine each others'
vessels, ways of doing things, & etc. The British were struck by how
large the USN's ships' mess spaces were, and how much space they devoted
to luxuries (some, like a full laundry in battleships were a consequence
of the USN not having many overseas bases, but many were simply
luxuries). OTOH, they were also struck by how poor the sleeping
arrangements were on US ships compared to the RN's standards. The USN's
sailors had many luxuries and nice mess spaces, but slept poorly
compared to the RN's sailors.

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