Deck plans Timothy Collinson (09 Jun 2014 20:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (09 Jun 2014 20:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Derek Wildstar (12 Jun 2014 02:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (12 Jun 2014 13:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (12 Jun 2014 14:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (12 Jun 2014 16:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (12 Jun 2014 20:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (13 Jun 2014 03:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (13 Jun 2014 06:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Joelle Clark (13 Jun 2014 12:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (13 Jun 2014 20:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (13 Jun 2014 20:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (13 Jun 2014 20:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Joelle Clark (13 Jun 2014 20:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans tmr0195@xxxxxx (13 Jun 2014 21:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (14 Jun 2014 06:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Postmark (14 Jun 2014 09:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (14 Jun 2014 12:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (16 Jun 2014 18:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (16 Jun 2014 19:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans tmr0195@xxxxxx (16 Jun 2014 20:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (17 Jun 2014 13:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans tmr0195@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2014 18:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (17 Jun 2014 19:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (17 Jun 2014 20:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 20:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (17 Jun 2014 20:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kelly St. Clair (17 Jun 2014 21:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 21:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kelly St. Clair (17 Jun 2014 22:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 22:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 22:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kelly St. Clair (18 Jun 2014 21:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 22:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Postmark (18 Jun 2014 22:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (18 Jun 2014 22:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 22:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans David Shaw (18 Jun 2014 22:22 UTC)
Rum Rations; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 23:27 UTC)
Re: Rum Rations; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Patrice (20 Jun 2014 01:32 UTC)
Re: Rum Rations; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Peter Berghold (20 Jun 2014 15:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (17 Jun 2014 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (18 Jun 2014 04:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 14:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (18 Jun 2014 14:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 10:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 10:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (20 Jun 2014 11:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 13:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Evyn MacDude (20 Jun 2014 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (21 Jun 2014 07:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Rupert Boleyn (22 Jun 2014 04:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (22 Jun 2014 06:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 13:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 14:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Rupert Boleyn (23 Jun 2014 19:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (24 Jun 2014 01:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (24 Jun 2014 06:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (24 Jun 2014 06:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (24 Jun 2014 20:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (25 Jun 2014 01:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 08:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (25 Jun 2014 12:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 12:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 12:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 12:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (26 Jun 2014 05:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (27 Jun 2014 04:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (27 Jun 2014 06:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (27 Jun 2014 12:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Jun 2014 13:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 14:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Jun 2014 15:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 16:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:28 UTC)
Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 23:33 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (19 Jun 2014 00:07 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Postmark (19 Jun 2014 06:43 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (19 Jun 2014 11:17 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (19 Jun 2014 17:08 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 11:04 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (20 Jun 2014 14:06 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Greg Nokes (20 Jun 2014 15:18 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans shadow@xxxxxx (21 Jun 2014 02:04 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (21 Jun 2014 12:53 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 12:38 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 12:39 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (23 Jun 2014 12:55 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 13:26 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Andrew Staples (23 Jun 2014 13:39 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (23 Jun 2014 13:43 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 13:52 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans William Ewing (24 Jun 2014 00:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (13 Jun 2014 14:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (13 Jun 2014 16:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (13 Jun 2014 16:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (13 Jun 2014 17:57 UTC)

Re: [TML] Deck plans Derek Wildstar 12 Jun 2014 02:04 UTC

On Jun 9, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Timothy Collinson <timothy.collinson@port.ac.uk> wrote:
> I'm using the rule of thumb that says deck plans should have twice the number of squares of the tonnage.

That’s basically correct.  A standard deck square is 1.5 meters square and 3 meters tall:
1.5m x 1.5m x 3m = 6.75m^3.  Two squares is therefore 13.5 cubic meters.

The Traveller volume standard is a ton of liquid hydrogen; the density varies with temperature, but is typically between 70.85 and 71.00 kg/m3.  That works out to just over 14 cubic meters per ton (14.08 to 14.11).  Slush hydrogen has a density of about 85 kg/m3, which would put a ton at 11.76 cubic meters.

Slush hydrogen is a mixture of solid, liquid, and gas at the triple point.  For hydrogen, this is a lower temperature and higher density than liquid hydrogen - about 14K (-259C) and and 7 kPa (about 1 PSI, or about 1/14th of an atmosphere).

IMTU, I figure that typical Traveller starships aim to keep their fuel as slush hydrogen at the triple point, and provide about 15% extra space in the tankage to accommodate chillers and to contain temperature excursions.

> So a 400-ton ship would have 800 one point five metre squares.

Yep.

> So if I have four decks of 200 squares and a fuel deck (not shown on the plans) as well.  That's NOT a 400 ton ship but a 500 ton ship, right?

Right.  A 400-ton J-1 ship will need 40 tons (or 80 squares) of fuel.

---Derek