Deck plans Timothy Collinson (09 Jun 2014 20:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (09 Jun 2014 20:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Derek Wildstar (12 Jun 2014 02:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (12 Jun 2014 13:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (12 Jun 2014 14:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (12 Jun 2014 16:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (12 Jun 2014 20:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (13 Jun 2014 03:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (13 Jun 2014 06:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Joelle Clark (13 Jun 2014 12:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (13 Jun 2014 20:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (13 Jun 2014 20:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (13 Jun 2014 20:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Joelle Clark (13 Jun 2014 20:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans tmr0195@xxxxxx (13 Jun 2014 21:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (14 Jun 2014 06:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Postmark (14 Jun 2014 09:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (14 Jun 2014 12:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (16 Jun 2014 18:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (16 Jun 2014 19:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans tmr0195@xxxxxx (16 Jun 2014 20:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (17 Jun 2014 13:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans tmr0195@xxxxxx (17 Jun 2014 18:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (17 Jun 2014 19:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (17 Jun 2014 20:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 20:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (17 Jun 2014 20:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kelly St. Clair (17 Jun 2014 21:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 21:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kelly St. Clair (17 Jun 2014 22:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 22:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (17 Jun 2014 22:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kelly St. Clair (18 Jun 2014 21:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 22:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Postmark (18 Jun 2014 22:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (18 Jun 2014 22:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 22:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans David Shaw (18 Jun 2014 22:22 UTC)
Rum Rations; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 23:27 UTC)
Re: Rum Rations; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Patrice (20 Jun 2014 01:32 UTC)
Re: Rum Rations; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Peter Berghold (20 Jun 2014 15:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (17 Jun 2014 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (18 Jun 2014 04:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 14:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (18 Jun 2014 14:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 10:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 10:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (20 Jun 2014 11:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 13:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Evyn MacDude (20 Jun 2014 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (21 Jun 2014 07:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Rupert Boleyn (22 Jun 2014 04:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (22 Jun 2014 06:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 13:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 14:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Rupert Boleyn (23 Jun 2014 19:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (24 Jun 2014 01:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (24 Jun 2014 06:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (24 Jun 2014 06:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (24 Jun 2014 20:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (25 Jun 2014 01:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 08:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (25 Jun 2014 12:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 12:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 12:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (25 Jun 2014 12:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (26 Jun 2014 05:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (27 Jun 2014 04:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Knapp (27 Jun 2014 06:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Tim (27 Jun 2014 12:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Jun 2014 13:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 14:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Jun 2014 15:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 16:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (18 Jun 2014 20:28 UTC)
Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (18 Jun 2014 23:33 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (19 Jun 2014 00:07 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Postmark (19 Jun 2014 06:43 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese (19 Jun 2014 11:17 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (19 Jun 2014 17:08 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (20 Jun 2014 11:04 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (20 Jun 2014 14:06 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Greg Nokes (20 Jun 2014 15:18 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans shadow@xxxxxx (21 Jun 2014 02:04 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Timothy Collinson (21 Jun 2014 12:53 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 12:38 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 12:39 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (23 Jun 2014 12:55 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 13:26 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Andrew Staples (23 Jun 2014 13:39 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Kurt Feltenberger (23 Jun 2014 13:43 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (23 Jun 2014 13:52 UTC)
Re: Crews Quarters; was Re: [TML] Deck plans William Ewing (24 Jun 2014 00:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Richard Aiken (13 Jun 2014 14:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (13 Jun 2014 16:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Jeffrey Schwartz (13 Jun 2014 16:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Deck plans Bruce Johnson (13 Jun 2014 17:57 UTC)

Re: [TML] Deck plans Phil Pugliese 18 Jun 2014 16:32 UTC

Thanks for all the info, Jeff.

I do think it would fit into the TU very nicely.

Would anyone else have anything wrt lives of the 'peons' (non-officers)?

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On Wed, 6/18/14, Jeffrey Schwartz <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] Deck plans
 To: "tml" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2014, 8:23 AM

 On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM,
 Phil Pugliese (via tml list)
(xxxxxx@yahoo.com)

 >
 >
 > --------------------------------------------
 > On Wed, 6/18/14, Jeffrey Schwartz <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >
 >
 >  Friend of mine works for Norwegian cruise lines
 as one of
 >  the 2
 >  network engineers on the ship. He's listed as the
 lowest
 >  level officer
 >  rating you can get, but officers get access to
 passenger
 >  ameneties, so
 >  he gets the same awesome food, pool , etc when
 off-shift.
 >  He also has zero expenses for 10 months out of
 the year
 >  (other 2
 >  months ship is in refit) so it works pretty
 well.
 > 
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 >
 > Any info wrt what the 'other ranks' get?
 >
 > I have this image of a movie I saw once where the Capt
 of an 18th century UK ship-of-the-line lived in a sumptous
 suite while the lot of the 'swabbies' was truly abysmal...
 >
 >
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 >

 I guess this is Trav-ish, since it's life of a crew member
 on a ship...

 Most of this is based on a conversation a few years ago, so
 some
 errors may be present.

 He and one other guy share a room with 2 small beds, 2 small
 closets.
 He said the beds are smaller than twin sized. The closets
 are about
 foot locker sized.

 They both do network admin - all the point of sale terminals
 in the
 ship plus all the passenger info computers used by stewards,
 plus
 passenger use of Internet.
 Nav and Engineering are on another network. Engineering
 handles that,
 although they sometimes consult.

 His life as he told me is he gets on the ship, and rides
 along for 5 months.
 He works 12 on / 12 off with his cabin mate.
 When they come into port, if there's nothing critical going
 on, they
 toss a coin for who goes ashore.

 He takes his off-shift meals in Passenger Mess, or if he's
 on-shift he
 runs and grabs a sandwich from the crew galley.
 Passenger Mess is _really_ good. Sometimes he's expected to
 'host' a
 table, and be in uniform doing the polite crew guy etc
 during the
 meal, which he thinks is work and the company doesn't.

 He can use the pool, and visit the casino and such. He can
 join in on
 the skeet shooting, but has to pay like the passengers do
 (ammo and
 clays cost is not included in his pay) and he's at the back
 of the
 line.
 He turns his uniforms in to the laundry, they do them and
 return them
 to his cabin, which I think is a nice perk.
 He mentioned enjoying sitting on deck and reading during
 off-shift.

 After 5 months of cruising, he gets a month off, and then
 shifts to a
 _different_ ship in the same line while the other ship goes
 through
 refurb and refit.

 Pay is decent - about 70% of a normal network admin's pay,
 but no
 housing, food, clothing costs. He does pay for a storage
 unit 'back
 home' that has clothes, his car, etc. During his months off,
 he
 usually stays with family or gets a long-term hotel.
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