Re: [TML] What is the moral? Doug Grimes (19 May 2015 06:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (19 May 2015 10:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 16:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 16:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (19 May 2015 16:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 17:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (19 May 2015 22:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (20 May 2015 15:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (20 May 2015 18:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kurt Feltenberger (20 May 2015 22:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (20 May 2015 22:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (20 May 2015 23:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (20 May 2015 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (21 May 2015 18:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (21 May 2015 20:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (21 May 2015 20:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? tmr0195@xxxxxx (21 May 2015 20:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 20:57 UTC)
RE: [TML] What is the moral? Anthony Jackson (21 May 2015 21:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (21 May 2015 22:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (21 May 2015 23:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 23:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (21 May 2015 23:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 23:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Ewan Quibell (22 May 2015 09:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (22 May 2015 06:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (21 May 2015 23:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (22 May 2015 13:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (22 May 2015 17:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (22 May 2015 17:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Greg Nokes (22 May 2015 17:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (22 May 2015 18:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (23 May 2015 01:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kurt Feltenberger (23 May 2015 01:45 UTC)
The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (23 May 2015 06:18 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (24 May 2015 04:59 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (24 May 2015 08:04 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (24 May 2015 17:14 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (24 May 2015 21:00 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (25 May 2015 06:28 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (25 May 2015 22:17 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (26 May 2015 10:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Knapp (22 May 2015 14:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Postmark (23 May 2015 01:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (23 May 2015 06:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Knapp (23 May 2015 22:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (24 May 2015 00:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (22 May 2015 07:05 UTC)

Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson 22 May 2015 17:20 UTC

> On May 22, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kelly St. Clair <xxxxxx@efn.org> wrote:
>
> My gut feeling is that stories designed to deliver a Moral Lesson unto the players are, by their nature, rather fixed and railroady - not good adventures.  There's also the risk that one's players will not appreciate/agree with the intended moral, or with being preached at in general.  (Some have a particular antipathy to such lessons being embedded in their entertainment, something that is supposed to be for /them/ - it is an unwelcome imposition, like commercials.)

Kelly just said what I was thinking, only more clearly.

Remember: an RPG adventure is NOT a story; it’a a framework wherein stories are created collaboratively. If you, as the GM wish to impose a Moral on them, it’s got to be done much more subtly, and in response to the players actions, not the path the GM has ordained.

On a broader scale, you can always use standard tropes <http://tvtropes.org> but you cannot really force the issue.

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Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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