Re: [TML] What is the moral? Doug Grimes (19 May 2015 06:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (19 May 2015 10:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 16:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 16:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (19 May 2015 16:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 17:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (19 May 2015 22:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (20 May 2015 15:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (20 May 2015 18:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kurt Feltenberger (20 May 2015 22:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (20 May 2015 22:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (20 May 2015 23:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (20 May 2015 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (21 May 2015 18:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (21 May 2015 20:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (21 May 2015 20:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? tmr0195@xxxxxx (21 May 2015 20:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 20:57 UTC)
RE: [TML] What is the moral? Anthony Jackson (21 May 2015 21:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (21 May 2015 22:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (21 May 2015 23:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 23:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (21 May 2015 23:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 23:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Ewan Quibell (22 May 2015 09:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (22 May 2015 06:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (21 May 2015 23:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (22 May 2015 13:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral? Knapp (22 May 2015 14:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (22 May 2015 17:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (22 May 2015 17:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Greg Nokes (22 May 2015 17:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (22 May 2015 18:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (23 May 2015 01:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kurt Feltenberger (23 May 2015 01:45 UTC)
The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (23 May 2015 06:18 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (24 May 2015 04:59 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (24 May 2015 08:04 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (24 May 2015 17:14 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (24 May 2015 21:00 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (25 May 2015 06:28 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (25 May 2015 22:17 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (26 May 2015 10:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Postmark (23 May 2015 01:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (23 May 2015 06:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Knapp (23 May 2015 22:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (24 May 2015 00:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (22 May 2015 07:05 UTC)

Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson 19 May 2015 16:24 UTC

> On May 19, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:
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>> But in this specific case, a system government did not yet exist. The security was being sought for the Constitutional Convention aimed at creating said government. So the PC noble was asking for Marines to be placed at his personal disposal. Tactical command remained with the Marine lieutenant who was placed in charge of the platoon by the ship's Marine commander. The PC noble could tell his "borrowed" Marines what should be done, but not how to do it.
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> Thus very neatly demonstrating what 'Rule of Man’ v. 'Rule of Law' actually boils down to in practice. The captain of that cruiser has ‘Age of Sail’-like autonomy over his ship, forces and use thereof, and the authority to do what the Baron asked him; he also had the authority to oh-so-politely decline.

Also, the baronial heir, due to his feudal relationship to the Emperor, has the authority to make the request (Feudal obligations run down as well as up). Had he outranked the captain (who no doubt has a duty title attached to his rank as captain, and is likely Baron or higher) he could well have just ordered him to do it, for instance, the ranking noble of a subsector, or certainly the sector Duchess could. That the noble making the request was the heir not the actual title holder would make the Captains job a lot easier in this case.

The cruiser Captain could very well decline the request in that case but he would then likely have to make his case at his court martial, on the grounds that obeying the noble would directly conflict with his orders as given by the Emperor.

Depending on where the trial were held, this could prove dicey.

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Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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