Re: [TML] What is the moral? Doug Grimes (19 May 2015 06:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (19 May 2015 10:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 16:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 16:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (19 May 2015 16:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (19 May 2015 17:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (19 May 2015 22:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (20 May 2015 15:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (20 May 2015 18:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kurt Feltenberger (20 May 2015 22:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (20 May 2015 22:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (20 May 2015 23:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (20 May 2015 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (21 May 2015 18:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (21 May 2015 20:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (21 May 2015 20:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? tmr0195@xxxxxx (21 May 2015 20:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 20:57 UTC)
RE: [TML] What is the moral? Anthony Jackson (21 May 2015 21:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (21 May 2015 22:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (21 May 2015 23:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 23:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (21 May 2015 23:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (21 May 2015 23:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Ewan Quibell (22 May 2015 09:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (22 May 2015 06:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (21 May 2015 23:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jeffrey Schwartz (22 May 2015 13:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral? Knapp (22 May 2015 14:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Postmark (23 May 2015 01:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (23 May 2015 06:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Knapp (23 May 2015 22:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (24 May 2015 00:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (22 May 2015 17:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (22 May 2015 17:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Greg Nokes (22 May 2015 17:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Craig Berry (22 May 2015 18:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (23 May 2015 01:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kurt Feltenberger (23 May 2015 01:45 UTC)
The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (23 May 2015 06:18 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Jim Vassilakos (24 May 2015 04:59 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (24 May 2015 08:04 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (24 May 2015 17:14 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair (24 May 2015 21:00 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (25 May 2015 06:28 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Bruce Johnson (25 May 2015 22:17 UTC)
Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Richard Aiken (26 May 2015 10:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (22 May 2015 07:05 UTC)

Re: [TML] What is the moral? Kelly St. Clair 20 May 2015 23:15 UTC

On 5/20/2015 3:39 PM, Richard Aiken wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Craig Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com
> <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I think the central moral of most of the Traveller games I've played
>     over the years is "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
>
>
>
> In line with what somebody upthread said, that sounds a lot like
> something from Shadowrun. The published adventures for that game
> routinely featured Patron doublecrosses and/or hidden agendas that my
> players came to regard the initial up-front payment as all the nuyen
> they were ever likely to get from that particular Mr. Johnson . . .

Yup.
There's the tale of one of the SR developers, who sat down with some
players and was surprised that they assumed this - and then had it
pointed out to them that the Patron betrayed the PCs in /every single
published adventure/.

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