(Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Cian Witherspoon (21 Feb 2018 07:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (23 Feb 2018 00:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Cian Witherspoon (23 Feb 2018 00:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Rupert Boleyn (23 Feb 2018 11:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (26 Feb 2018 01:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Kurt Feltenberger (23 Feb 2018 00:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Cian Witherspoon (23 Feb 2018 05:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Rupert Boleyn (23 Feb 2018 12:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Rupert Boleyn (25 Feb 2018 13:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (26 Feb 2018 02:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (26 Feb 2018 02:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Kurt Feltenberger (26 Feb 2018 02:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (26 Feb 2018 03:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Kurt Feltenberger (26 Feb 2018 04:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (26 Feb 2018 04:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Kurt Feltenberger (26 Feb 2018 04:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Cian Witherspoon (26 Feb 2018 15:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Richard Aiken (27 Feb 2018 01:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod shadow@xxxxxx (27 Feb 2018 02:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Rupert Boleyn (27 Feb 2018 10:11 UTC)

Re: [TML] (Cross post from FB) I accidentally a missile pod Cian Witherspoon 23 Feb 2018 00:27 UTC

I do enjoy his books, to the point of being part of the fan club (HMS
Seljuk chapter - or are we RHNS Seljuk now? I don't know, I'm
Erewhonese).
So yes, I'm fully aware of missile pods, which is what these are based off of.
For an SDB, the framework could be cut down docking clamps, or it
could be specially built (at 5k/pod, perhaps, and 1% total pod
tonnage) for huge applications.
THe main limitation is fire control tonnage, unless we handwave that
as part of the computer systems, since it needs no physical
mechanisms.

On 2/22/18, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you read any of David Weber's Honorverse books, particularly the
> middle ones? Missile pods were a literal game changer for the fleets in
> that universe. In Traveller, they might be even more of one, because it
> would only be starships that would need all the extra bits. For system
> defense use, you just need the pods themselves and a framework to hold
> them, as they're towed into action behind SDBs. Slew the framework's
> broadside toward the enemy, then let loose! :)
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Cian Witherspoon <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I semi-accidentally created a missile pod in response to someone
>> asking about q-ships in Traveller on facebook. The basic idea for me:
>> how many missiles can I launch from a cargo container?
>> It snowballed from there into something that would kill fleets in
>> Mongoose's second edition.
>> I simply copied my final post, but I can copy the rest of my original
>> though process if requested.
>>  >Let's make it more realistic - a pod is made from the cheapest
>> materials available, and is expected to not survive. KCr50/dt, and
>> launches 6 missiles. It has a cheap computer and bare minimum sensors
>> (enough to allow positioning relative to the launch ship), a
>> communications system, a small battery and cheap attitude thrusters
>> (it is not expected to maneuver). Launch systems are fast ejection,
>> being 5 times the pod size, and able to launch up to 10 pods per
>> round, costing MCr0.2/dt. Ram systems are 30% of pod size, and cost
>> MCr0.3/dt. They have a minimum size of 2dt, and must be 150% or
>> greater of the fire control requirements.
>> >Reload systems for both are 10% of pod size, which suffices for 10 pods,
>> and costs MCr0.1/dt.
>> >Each pod requires fire control of 0.1dt per dton, costing MCr0.2/dt.
>> Minimum size is 1dt, to allow access and control (the actual control
>> station is 0.5dt). Fire control must be allocated based on maximum number
>> of pods expected to be used at once, but is included in a ram system.
>> >Based on this, our 10dt pod costs MCr0.5 before ammo, and launches 60
>> missiles, costing KCr75, for a total of MCr0.575/pod. Reload systems are
>> 1dt/10 pods, costing MCr0.1. It requires 1dt in fire control, costing
>> MCr0.2 if in a fast launch system. A ram system requires 3dt of systems,
>> plus payload space, costing MCr0.9, and includes fire control. A fast
>> launch system uses 50dt and costs MCr10, requiring 10 fire control
>> stations
>> for MCr1 and 10dt.
>> >However, the fast launch kicks out 600 missiles/turn.
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