On the testing bandwagon... Joseph Paul (30 Apr 2014 15:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Peter Berghold (30 Apr 2014 15:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Joseph Paul (30 Apr 2014 17:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Greg Nokes (30 Apr 2014 18:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Knapp (01 May 2014 06:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Eris Reddoch (01 May 2014 21:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Freelance Traveller (01 May 2014 22:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Andrew Long (01 May 2014 23:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Bruce Johnson (01 May 2014 23:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Knapp (02 May 2014 19:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 19:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Knapp (02 May 2014 19:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Timothy Collinson (02 May 2014 21:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 22:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Ros Knox & Michael Barry (03 May 2014 08:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Timothy Collinson (04 May 2014 10:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Knapp (04 May 2014 15:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (04 May 2014 17:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Knapp (04 May 2014 18:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Carlos (03 May 2014 10:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 21:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Bruce Johnson (01 May 2014 23:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... shadow@xxxxxx (02 May 2014 01:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Tim (02 May 2014 06:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (02 May 2014 10:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Carlos (02 May 2014 12:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Timothy Collinson (02 May 2014 19:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... shadow@xxxxxx (03 May 2014 06:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Ros Knox & Michael Barry (03 May 2014 07:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (03 May 2014 15:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Carlos (03 May 2014 16:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Phil Pugliese (03 May 2014 16:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... shadow@xxxxxx (04 May 2014 04:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Richard Aiken (04 May 2014 06:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Richard Aiken (02 May 2014 06:22 UTC)

Re: [TML] On the testing bandwagon... Bruce Johnson 01 May 2014 23:28 UTC

On May 1, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Andrew Long <andrew.long@mac.com> wrote:

> On 1 May 2014, at 23:51, Freelance Traveller wrote:
>>
>> Where the local astronomical year doesn't match up with the Imperial
>> year, a local calendar may be considered more important than the
>> Imperial one, as agricultural rhythms will conform to the local seasonal
>> cycles. Local timekeeping may persist, too, as a better fit than the
>> Standard Imperial Clock - for example, rather than adding a 37-odd
>> minute "comp" to the day if I were on a resource-independent Mars, I'd
>> simply make my seconds about three percent longer, so that the Martian
>> day would be 24 *hours of 60 *minutes of 60 *seconds, so that everything
>> comes out nice and even, and time-zone corrections don't have to worry
>> about "are they six hours ahead or are they in Comp right now, or ...".
>> For communication with Earth, I'd have access to clocks and calendars
>> that keep Earth time, but it doesn't otherwise make sense for Mars to
>> conform to an Earth clock or Earth calendar - it simply doesn't fit the
>> astronomical facts of Mars.
>
> But just jow much of Physics would be placed at risk by that decision?

None at all, this is essentially like converting between Metric and English units; the physics will be the same regardless of the units involved.

> We currently use the second as defined by qunatum oscillations... no matter that it was *originally* a fraction of a sidereal year (or a close approximation of one)

This is merely a matter of how we define one standard second. Say an 'Imperial second’ is 2.38763901 of ours because ancient Vilani carts were 1.3459233 meters wide, the physics will not change, just the numbers attached. So long as we don’t inadvertently mix the two and learn first hand the brief, but spectacular wonders of lithobraking maneuvers, all will be fine.

> This sound to me much like the plas to make Pi equal to 3 by legislative fiat.

No because that was an attempt to alter a unitless fundamental constant; all changing the definition of units does is alter the numbers…the ratio of the circumference to diameter of a circle is π regardless of the units it’s measured in.

--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

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