FF&S John Geoffrey (20 Apr 2015 19:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Kurt Feltenberger (20 Apr 2015 23:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Bruce Johnson (20 Apr 2015 23:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (20 Apr 2015 23:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Bruce Johnson (21 Apr 2015 15:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S David Golden (21 Apr 2015 17:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (21 Apr 2015 17:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Phil Pugliese (21 Apr 2015 20:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Christopher Hilton (22 Apr 2015 03:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Derek Wildstar (28 Apr 2015 19:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Bruce Johnson (28 Apr 2015 19:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Ethan McKinney (28 Apr 2015 19:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (28 Apr 2015 23:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (21 Apr 2015 17:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Derek Wildstar (28 Apr 2015 19:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Evyn MacDude (28 Apr 2015 22:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (28 Apr 2015 23:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Derek Wildstar (29 Apr 2015 20:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (29 Apr 2015 23:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Derek Wildstar (30 Apr 2015 12:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (30 Apr 2015 13:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Derek Wildstar (30 Apr 2015 14:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (30 Apr 2015 15:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S David Golden (07 May 2015 12:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S tmr0195@xxxxxx (07 May 2015 14:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Evyn MacDude (21 Apr 2015 03:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] FF&S Thomas Jones-Low (21 Apr 2015 03:25 UTC)

Re: [TML] FF&S Phil Pugliese 21 Apr 2015 20:25 UTC

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On Tue, 4/21/15, David Golden <xxxxxx@pcisys.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] FF&S
 To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 10:10 AM

 On Tue, April 21, 2015
 11:46 am, Bruce Johnson wrote:
 > As
 published, a hash was pretty much made of everything. Almost
 none of
 > the ‘standard’
 ships in the T4 book could be built with the design
 > system published in the book, the
 inconsistencies between QSDS and SSDS

 That seemed to be a consistent theme for
 Traveller, from the LBB days on.
 We'd
 hoped to finally break that streak.  I'd hoped we could
 actually get
 the TML to use FF&S to
 design ships and vehicles for submission.

 What I still can't wrap my
 mind around is that they took the final draft
 in Word format, apparently without reading it,
 dumped it into some print
 layout program,
 and never bothered to error check anything.  A single
 read
 through would have shown the equations
 were scrambled.

 And to
 confirm what others have noted, T4 FF&S was basically a
 port of TNE
 FF&S to the T4
 environment.
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Sometimes things are just too broken to fix...

By the time GDW went belly-up the rules had become a hideously over-complicated mish-mash of everyone & their brother's 'Great Idea to Fix Traveller'(tm).

I had high hopes that once it was back in MM's hands things would be better but once all the talk about even more complication started, I got really, really bummed & became one of the first to 'drift away'.

It's too bad T4 wasn't done the way T5 was but I'm not sure that it would've been possible back then...

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