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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jul 2020 00:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Rupert Boleyn (17 Jul 2020 02:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Alex Goodwin (17 Jul 2020 03:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jul 2020 09:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Rupert Boleyn (17 Jul 2020 13:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Jul 2020 12:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Timothy Collinson (26 Jul 2020 10:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Jul 2020 16:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Jul 2020 22:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Jul 2020 17:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Jul 2020 20:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jul 2020 02:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (30 Jul 2020 09:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Jeff Zeitlin (27 Jul 2020 20:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jul 2020 02:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Jul 2020 02:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (30 Jul 2020 09:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Jeff Zeitlin (30 Jul 2020 09:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (02 Aug 2020 11:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (02 Aug 2020 16:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Rupert Boleyn (02 Aug 2020 22:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Rupert Boleyn (30 Jul 2020 10:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Jul 2020 15:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Thomas RUX (31 Jul 2020 02:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Timothy Collinson (30 Jul 2020 21:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (11 Aug 2020 07:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (13 Aug 2020 22:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Aug 2020 00:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (10 Aug 2020 09:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (10 Aug 2020 10:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (13 Aug 2020 06:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (13 Aug 2020 07:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (30 Jul 2020 03:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Jeff Zeitlin (26 Jul 2020 00:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Jul 2020 15:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Jeff Zeitlin (26 Jul 2020 19:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (28 Jul 2020 21:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus kaladorn@xxxxxx (17 Jul 2020 00:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Ethan McKinney (16 Jul 2020 20:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Thomas RUX (16 Jul 2020 21:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Phil Pugliese (21 Jul 2020 14:59 UTC)

Re: [TML] Refuelling Apparatus Rupert Boleyn 13 Jul 2020 04:56 UTC


On 13Jul2020 1625, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
> Luminaries,
>
> Hark thee back to the various versions and sources and hear my query:
>
> Hast there been any version of Ye Olde (Or Less Olde) Rules in which
> the mechanisms to do ship-to-ship refueling are covered from a design
> perspective?
FF&S (both the TNE and T4 versions) mention probe & drogue aircraft
refuelling systems, but give no detail on how fast fuel can be
transferred. There's nothing on ship-ship transfers so far as I know.

For what it's worth, GURPS Spaceships lets you transfer 10% of a ship's
fuel mass every 3 minutes (so all of it in 30 minutes). Note that this
rate is based on the smaller value, so a tanker or battleship can't
refuel a destroyer in next to no time (but could refuel many at once).

>
> HasT there been, yea verily, any scribblings that smell of the lamp
> about safer storage of large amounts of fuel (for a tanker)?
>
> If not, and one wanted to design one of these, are there any other
> proxies that might suggest the scale/power consumption/rate of
> transfer, and so on?
>
> I am thinking a big fleet on the move might want to have tankers.
> Given J-4 or more in some systems, the fuel use would be a fair bit as
> would the jump engines. But you might be able to make up for that by
> having a LOT of external fuel storage as well.
>
> This, forsooth, doth bring yet another query: Hast there been
> declared, by powers most righteous, a limit upon the size of tanks
> external and wonderous in Our sight? (I grasp that there likely are
> rules defining the impacts on jump transit with these external tanks,
> but I just wondered if there were any explicit rules like... oh..
> can't build an external tank more than 50% the size of your craft...
> or some such)

You can build them as big as you like. In systems like FF&S you have to
build them with armour, supporting structures, stealth surfaces, etc.,
so a big tank for a high-performance military ship will cost a fair bit.

--
Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>