T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (25 Apr 2015 22:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Bruce Johnson (26 Apr 2015 02:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (26 Apr 2015 03:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Derek Wildstar (28 Apr 2015 16:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (28 Apr 2015 22:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Derek Wildstar (29 Apr 2015 20:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (29 Apr 2015 23:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Derek Wildstar (30 Apr 2015 12:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (30 Apr 2015 15:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Derek Wildstar (30 Apr 2015 21:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Ethan McKinney (30 Apr 2015 21:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (01 May 2015 02:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (01 May 2015 00:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question Derek Wildstar (01 May 2015 15:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question tmr0195@xxxxxx (02 May 2015 04:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (02 May 2015 15:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (03 May 2015 15:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (04 May 2015 19:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Derek Wildstar (05 May 2015 01:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (05 May 2015 06:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (05 May 2015 20:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Derek Wildstar (05 May 2015 21:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (06 May 2015 15:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (06 May 2015 20:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (07 May 2015 15:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Derek Wildstar (07 May 2015 20:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (08 May 2015 00:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (08 May 2015 03:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (08 May 2015 13:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Ethan McKinney (09 May 2015 02:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (09 May 2015 21:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Ethan McKinney (09 May 2015 21:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 May 2015 18:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Ethan McKinney (11 May 2015 19:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 May 2015 23:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Derek Wildstar (05 May 2015 01:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx (05 May 2015 05:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors Derek Wildstar (05 May 2015 21:19 UTC)

Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors tmr0195@xxxxxx 03 May 2015 15:52 UTC

Looks like my formatting is a bit off, so I'll try another one next time.

At first glance I thought the Min Length was based on antenna area,
then I thought that the min hull was based on passive sensor antenna
diameter. Now I am simply confused.

How is Min Length determined in the QSDS 1.5e Standard
Sensor Table?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: xxxxxx@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 8:10 AM To:
> xxxxxx@simplelists.com Subject: Re: [TML] T4 QSDS Question: Sensors

> Hello Guy, Derek Wildstar, Garnett and TML members,

>I am trying to figure out how to present the differences between my
> calculations and those in the Standard Sensor Systems table for review.
> Here
> is my latest format:

> 1. TL-9 Basic Package; Active Sensor Radar 300 km (A0); Passive Sensor
> HRT,
> 60,000 km, (P2), Jammer None, 0 km (J0)

> My design Min Length is 10 m versus 5 m, Volume is 1 displacement tons
> (Td)
> versus 1.1 Td and the Price is MCr13.8 versus MCr 13.5. The difference in
> Min Length may be due to an error in my understanding of how minimum
> length
> is determine based on the HRT antenna diameter, the volume difference in
> rounding and my calculated price for the radar is from applying
> Consolidated
> TNE Errata of Radar Antenna Cost (AC) MCr = Antenna Area (AA) x 0.05.

> Active Sensor: TL-9 300 km Radar: TNE FF&S Radar Table p. 50
>   Processor
>     Volume (m^3): 10 m^3 = 10 / 14 = 0.7143 Td
>     Price (MCr) = 1 x Volume = 1 x 10 = MCr10

>  Antenna
>    Area (m^2) = Processor Volume x TL Modifier = 10 m^3 x TL 9 Mod of 0.5
> = 5 m^2
>    Volume (m^3) = AA x 0.1 = 5 x 0.1 = 0.5 m^3 = 0.5 / 14 = 0.0357 Td
>    Price (MCr) = 0.05 x AA 5 = MCr0.25

> Radar Volume Total (Td) = Processor Volume 0.71 Td + Antenna Volume 0.04
> Td = 0.75 Td
> Radar Price Total (MCr) = Processor MCr10 +Antenna MCr 0.25 = MCr10.25

> Passive Sensor: TL 9 60,000 km HRT TNE FF&S HRT table p. 52
>   Processor
>     Volume (m^3): 1.5 m^3 = 1.5 / 14 = 0.1071 Td
>     Price (MCr) = 1 x Volume = 1 x 1.5 = MCr1.500

>  Antenna
>    Diameter (m^2) If diameter > the unmodified hull length the antenna
> must be a folding array otherwise it is a fixed array. The shortest
> unmodified QSDS hull is 14 m. Array Modifiers: Fixed= 0.05; Folding = 0.1
>    Demeter (m^2): 60,000 km antenna diameter is 10 m which is < 14 m and
> is a fixed array (Volume mod 0.05)
>    Area (m^2) = Area (m^2) x TL 9+ Mod 0.5 = 80 m^3 x 0.5 = 40 m^2
>    Volume = Area (m^2) x Array Modifier = AA 40 x Fixed Array 0.05 = 2 m^3
> = 2 / 14 = 0.1429 Td
>    Price (MCr) = 1 x Volume m^3 = 1 x Volume 2 m^3 = MCr2.0

> HRT Volume Total (Td) = Processor Volume 0.1071 Td + Antenna Volume 0.1429
> Td = 0.2500 Td
> HRT Total Cost (MCr) = Processor MCr1.5 + Antenna MCr2.0 = MCr3.5

> TL-9 Basic Sensor Type
> Min Length: 10 m
> Total Volume (Td) = Radar 0.75 Td + HRT 0.25 Td= 1.000 Td.
> Total Price (MCr) = Radar MCr10.25 + HRT MCr3.5 = MCr13.75 = rounding to
> on decimal place MCr13.8

> Does this format work?